RSS iconTwitter iconFacebook icon

The Trek BBS title image

The Trek BBS statistics

Threads: 139,579
Posts: 5,403,217
Members: 24,865
Currently online: 479
Newest member: shyrim

TrekToday headlines

October-November 2014 Trek Conventions And Appearances
By: T'Bonz on Sep 30

Cho Selfie TV Alert
By: T'Bonz on Sep 30

TPTB To Shatner: Shhh!
By: T'Bonz on Sep 30

Mystery Mini Vinyl Figure Display Box
By: T'Bonz on Sep 29

The Red Shirt Diaries Episode Five
By: T'Bonz on Sep 29

Shatner In Trek 3? Well Maybe
By: T'Bonz on Sep 28

Retro Review: Shadows and Symbols
By: Michelle on Sep 27

Meyer: Revitalizing Star Trek
By: T'Bonz on Sep 26

Trek Costumes To Be Auctioned
By: T'Bonz on Sep 25

Hulu Snaps up Abrams-Produced Drama
By: T'Bonz on Sep 25


Welcome! The Trek BBS is the number one place to chat about Star Trek with like-minded fans. Please login to see our full range of forums as well as the ability to send and receive private messages, track your favourite topics and of course join in the discussions.

If you are a new visitor, join us for free. If you are an existing member please login below. Note: for members who joined under our old messageboard system, please login with your display name not your login name.


Go Back   The Trek BBS > Entertainment & Interests > Science Fiction & Fantasy

Science Fiction & Fantasy Farscape, Babylon 5, Star Wars, Firefly, vampires, genre books and film.

Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old September 20 2009, 03:32 PM   #46
Out Of My Vulcan Mind
Vice Admiral
 
Out Of My Vulcan Mind's Avatar
 
Location: Wherever you go, there you are.
Re: Cast any actor from any era for your dream Batman cast.

The Dark Knight Returns with a late 1960s cast and director:

Charlton Heston as Batman, Peter O'Toole as the Joker, and Sean Connery as Commissioner Gordon under the direction of Stanley Kubrick.
__________________
"I'll see you in another life, brother."
Out Of My Vulcan Mind is offline   Reply With Quote
Old September 20 2009, 05:56 PM   #47
Praetor
Vice Admiral
 
Praetor's Avatar
 
Location: The fine line between continuity and fanwank.
Re: Cast any actor from any era for your dream Batman cast.

The Borgified Corpse wrote: View Post
JacksonArcher wrote: View Post
You know, Borgified Corpse, I always thought a Tim Burton/Michael Keaton/Danny Elfman Dark Knight Returns movie could be stellar. Let Burton make it a psuedo sequel to Batman Returns and...
As always, Jackson Archer, I'm glad when you & I are on the same wavelength. Here's hoping Warner Bros. is sophisticated enough to allow 2 very different flavors of Batman to coexist.

One thing I've noticed in the "Funniest Superhero Lines" thread is that there's a lot of quotable stuff from the Tim Burton movies but not so much from the Chris Nolan movies.
Thirded. Although Burton's vision of "prime" Batman isn't nearly the same as what, ideally, I think he should be, I respect his vision and I think it would be absolutely PERFECT for "Dark Knight Returns." And since everyone is keen to make everything dark, there it is.

I guess I'm the only one who had any tolerance for Val Kilmer?

I can't really add much to the great suggestions already. My definitive version of Batman is the TAS version, and I suppose the most iconic live action version in my mind is Christian Bale, although that might have been different had Alec Baldwin played him in Burton's films, or had Clooney played him in a non-Schumacher film.

Two casting suggestions I haven't seen yet are Hugh Laurie (circa now) as the Joker and Vince Vaughn (in serious "Psycho" mode, but his age now) as a TAS-style Clayface.
__________________
"If you can't take a little bloody nose, maybe you ought to go back home and crawl under your bed. It's not safe out here. It's wondrous, with treasures to satiate desires both subtle and gross; but it's not for the timid." - Q
Praetor is offline   Reply With Quote
Old September 20 2009, 07:42 PM   #48
sojourner
Admiral
 
sojourner's Avatar
 
Location: I'm at WKRP
Re: Cast any actor from any era for your dream Batman cast.

Suprised no one suggested this yet:

Max Schreck as Max Schreck

__________________
Baby, you and me were never meant to be, just maybe think of me once in a while...
sojourner is offline   Reply With Quote
Old September 21 2009, 02:17 AM   #49
suarezguy
Commodore
 
Location: Albuquerque, NM, USA
Re: Cast any actor from any era for your dream Batman cast.

Batman ... early 90s Alec Baldwin
The Joker - Gene Wilder, mid-to-late 80s Bill Murray or Robert Walker (Strangers on a Train)
Two-Face ... 70s or early 80s Al Pacino or 00s Joaquin Phoenix
The Riddler ... late 90s Matt Damon
Mr. Freeze ... Hugo Weaving
Poison Ivy ... Uma Thurman
__________________
"Barack Obama is the supremely qualified person whose opinion matters."-Joan Walsh
suarezguy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old September 21 2009, 07:31 AM   #50
The Borgified Corpse
Admiral
 
The Borgified Corpse's Avatar
 
Location: Ouch! Forgotten already? You were just down there 20 minutes ago.
Re: Cast any actor from any era for your dream Batman cast.

Praetor wrote: View Post
The Borgified Corpse wrote: View Post
JacksonArcher wrote: View Post
You know, Borgified Corpse, I always thought a Tim Burton/Michael Keaton/Danny Elfman Dark Knight Returns movie could be stellar. Let Burton make it a psuedo sequel to Batman Returns and...
As always, Jackson Archer, I'm glad when you & I are on the same wavelength. Here's hoping Warner Bros. is sophisticated enough to allow 2 very different flavors of Batman to coexist.

One thing I've noticed in the "Funniest Superhero Lines" thread is that there's a lot of quotable stuff from the Tim Burton movies but not so much from the Chris Nolan movies.
Thirded. Although Burton's vision of "prime" Batman isn't nearly the same as what, ideally, I think he should be, I respect his vision and I think it would be absolutely PERFECT for "Dark Knight Returns." And since everyone is keen to make everything dark, there it is.
Look at it this way. Dark Knight Returns & Tim Burton's 1st Batman movie are the only 2 times I can recall Batman using guns.

I'm not always satisfied with everything about Burton's Batman movies but I think his version of Gotham City has been the best. And while his versions of the Penguin & Catwoman were great deviations from the source material, he really made them his own; same with Michael Keaton as Bruce Wayne.

I guess I'm the only one who had any tolerance for Val Kilmer?
I like him better as time goes on but he's still my least favorite. I found him a little bland and I didn't think his look was right at all. Actually, George Clooney comes closest to my vision of how Batman should look, even more than Christian Bale. Michael Keaton was totally counterintuitive but worked for a Tim Burton Batman. Under any other director, I suspect Keaton would have been totally wrong.
__________________
Kegg: "You're a Trekkie. The capacity to quibble over the minutiae of space opera films is your birthright."
The Borgified Corpse is offline   Reply With Quote
Old September 21 2009, 12:57 PM   #51
Out Of My Vulcan Mind
Vice Admiral
 
Out Of My Vulcan Mind's Avatar
 
Location: Wherever you go, there you are.
Re: Cast any actor from any era for your dream Batman cast.

The Borgified Corpse wrote: View Post
Look at it this way. Dark Knight Returns & Tim Burton's 1st Batman movie are the only 2 times I can recall Batman using guns.
Batman's code of rejecting guns and refusing to kill has been around for a very, very long time, but was nevertheless an addition to the Batman mythos rather than part of the original design of the character. In the very early comics Batman did sometimes use guns and was willing to kill:





__________________
"I'll see you in another life, brother."
Out Of My Vulcan Mind is offline   Reply With Quote
Old September 21 2009, 04:33 PM   #52
MeanJoePhaser
Admiral
 
Location: Missile Command
Re: Cast any actor from any era for your dream Batman cast.

Out Of My Vulcan Mind wrote: View Post
The Borgified Corpse wrote: View Post
Look at it this way. Dark Knight Returns & Tim Burton's 1st Batman movie are the only 2 times I can recall Batman using guns.
Batman's code of rejecting guns and refusing to kill has been around for a very, very long time, but was nevertheless an addition to the Batman mythos rather than part of the original design of the character. In the very early comics Batman did sometimes use guns and was willing to kill:
Because he's the hero Gotham doesn't deserve, but the one it needs right now. So we'll hunt him because he deserves it. Because he's not our hero. He's a violent guardian, a watchful executioner. A death knight.


You know what? They should have gun-toting Batman in the next movie, not the actual Batman but as an AMERICA'S MOST WANTED t.v. recreation of what the authorities believe happened to the people Dent actually killed. They could use lines from those early comics. Even funnier, cast someone known as the recreation Batman, even a former Batman actor like Clooney or Kilmer...
MeanJoePhaser is offline   Reply With Quote
Old September 21 2009, 09:59 PM   #53
Captaindemotion
Vice Admiral
 
Captaindemotion's Avatar
 
Location: Ireland
Re: Cast any actor from any era for your dream Batman cast.

COunt me in as another fan of Kilmer's Bat. He wasn't ideal for the role but I thought he did a lot better than Clooney or Keaton. Made a dashing, athetic Batman and captured the playboy side of Bruce Wayne along with the brooding intensity.

Two points of view on this thread I really don't get though. One is the Clint-as-old-Batman one. Never did get that idea. I like Clint but if he was to be a comic character, he'd be a perfect Judge Dredd or Nick Fury. But he's too blue-collar for Bruce Wayne - I just can't see him convincing anyone as a playboy/ business man type. He's too one-dimensional to play Batman, even the grim old avenger of TDKR.

The other POV I'm (respectfully) not getting is the idea of Tim Burton doing TDKR in his Batverse. To me, the two just wouldn't gel at all. Burton's Gotham was almost fairy-tale esque, it fitted very much in the milieu of the rest of his movies. Batman Returns especially - it's easier to imagine Edward Scissorhands co-existing in this universe than Superman. Whereas TDKR was almost hyper-real, splicing tv clips and talking heads to achieve its topicality. When has Burton ever gone for that approach?

I would have thought that Zach Snyder, Tony Scott or Neil Bergkamp (District 9) would be ideal directors for a live-action TDKR.

I also don't see even an older grizzled Michael Keaton as the Batman/ Bruce Wayne of that story. I'd prefer Robert Redford from around the time of The Last Castle, Harrison Ford circa Air Force One, maybe even Tom Berenger as he is now.
__________________
Hodor!!!!!!!
Captaindemotion is offline   Reply With Quote
Old September 21 2009, 10:52 PM   #54
DigificWriter
Rear Admiral
 
Location: West Haven, UT, USA
Re: Cast any actor from any era for your dream Batman cast.

Batman Forever really gets a lot of crap that it doesn't entirely deserve. Aside from Tommy Lee Jones' too-over-the-top performance as Two Face (which is sad), it's actually quite a good film, and I really enjoy Kilmer's performance as Bruce Wayne/Batman; it really feels like he's channeling Michael Keaton, at least to me.
__________________
Starbuck: We're all friendlies. So, let's just... be friendly.
"There is no 'supposed to be.' It's an adaptation, a word that literally means change. Why bother making a new version if it doesn't offer a fresh approach?" - Christopher L. Bennett
DigificWriter is offline   Reply With Quote
Old September 22 2009, 01:28 AM   #55
Admiral James Kirk
Writer
 
Admiral James Kirk's Avatar
 
Location: Tucson, AZ
Re: Cast any actor from any era for your dream Batman cast.

Aragorn wrote: View Post
Just as the subject line says -- any actor, any age, from any era, for any role. If you were to put together your dream cast for a Batman movie franchise, who would you choose?
Batman: Not really sure. Not a lot of actors I like for this part. I've always wondered what Kevin Conroy would have been like if he'd played the part live action. After watching the latest season of Smallville on DVD I've become fascinated with the idea of Sam Witwer playing the part. He's got the darkly handsome looks and he can play damaged really well. Would love to see him tackle Batman.

Jim Gordon: Nick Nolte

Alfred: Clifton Webb

Joker: James Woods or Crispin Glover or Mark Hamill.

Bullock: Robert Costanzo

Riddler: Robert Englund because he was so great on The Batman.

Bane: Arnold Schwarzenegger

Robin: Don't hurt me but... Burt Ward. He just seemed like the truest representation of the young Dick Grayson.

Nightwing: Chris O'Donnel. Fuck you. I like 'im.

I can't think of anyone else right now.
Admiral James Kirk is offline   Reply With Quote
Old September 22 2009, 02:14 AM   #56
The Borgified Corpse
Admiral
 
The Borgified Corpse's Avatar
 
Location: Ouch! Forgotten already? You were just down there 20 minutes ago.
Re: Cast any actor from any era for your dream Batman cast.

MeanJoePhaser wrote: View Post
Out Of My Vulcan Mind wrote: View Post
The Borgified Corpse wrote: View Post
Look at it this way. Dark Knight Returns & Tim Burton's 1st Batman movie are the only 2 times I can recall Batman using guns.
Batman's code of rejecting guns and refusing to kill has been around for a very, very long time, but was nevertheless an addition to the Batman mythos rather than part of the original design of the character. In the very early comics Batman did sometimes use guns and was willing to kill:
Because he's the hero Gotham doesn't deserve, but the one it needs right now. So we'll hunt him because he deserves it. Because he's not our hero. He's a violent guardian, a watchful executioner. A death knight.

You know what? They should have gun-toting Batman in the next movie, not the actual Batman but as an AMERICA'S MOST WANTED t.v. recreation of what the authorities believe happened to the people Dent actually killed. They could use lines from those early comics. Even funnier, cast someone known as the recreation Batman, even a former Batman actor like Clooney or Kilmer...
I like that. I could totally see Clooney, Kilmer, or even Chris O'Donnell playing the actor recreating Batman.
__________________
Kegg: "You're a Trekkie. The capacity to quibble over the minutiae of space opera films is your birthright."
The Borgified Corpse is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Tags
batman

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump



All times are GMT +1. The time now is 11:22 AM.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.6
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
FireFox 2+ or Internet Explorer 7+ highly recommended.