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Old September 9 2009, 12:47 AM   #76
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Re: Nero: "It happened! I saw it happen..."

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Nero's ARMS AND LEGS get STRAPPED IN TIGHT. Go WIDE to reveal he's pinned to an interrogation table -- three GUARDS. A KLINGON INTERROGATOR approaches; looms over Nero, studying the Romulan's face with clinical detachment...

KLINGON INTERROGATOR
(SUBTITLED KLINGON)
I have come far to meet you. "The One
Who Does Not Speak." Ten years is a long
time to maintain silence.
(beat)
Perhaps you simply do not speak Klingon,
just as I do not speak Romulan.
But I assume we both speak the language
of our common enemy.

(NOTE: FROM NOW ON, OUR NON-ENGLISH SPEAKERS WILL SPEAK ENGLISH, UNLESS OTHERWISE NOTED.) He reveals a worn LEATHER JOURNAL. Opens it, flips through it almost casually... we see SKETCHES of the JELLYFISH SHIP, PAGES OF COMPLICATED MATH EQUATIONS...

KLINGON INTERROGATOR (CONT’D)
We found this book in your cell.
Cartography, mathematics-- what do these
mean? This date here -- eleven years
from now-- what happens then?
(holds up the
FLUORESCENT MAPS)
And why attempt to smuggle in maps of
Federation space?
Is that an actual script excerpt?
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Old September 9 2009, 12:54 AM   #77
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Re: Nero: "It happened! I saw it happen..."

Yeah. The truth is out there.
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Old September 9 2009, 01:11 AM   #78
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Re: Nero: "It happened! I saw it happen..."

How did you get it?
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Old September 9 2009, 01:25 AM   #79
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Re: Nero: "It happened! I saw it happen..."

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Also I'm sick of well spoken clear voiced etonian english bad guy voices-it's so passe!
All the best villains have British accents - any American can tell you that.
Perhaps this notion at last explains the single terrible performance I've seen from John Lithgow, with this godawful overennunciated British (the kind you'd expect from a Costner) in CLIFFHANGER.
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Old September 9 2009, 02:34 AM   #80
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Mr. Laser Beam wrote: View Post
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<script excerpt>
Is that an actual script excerpt?
Confirmed. That's in there.
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Old September 9 2009, 11:17 AM   #81
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Re: Nero: "It happened! I saw it happen..."

Abrams said the prison planet sequence took the test audiences out of the movie. I wonder what kind of mess he created on screen that a sequence explaining EVERYTHING would take you out of the movie.
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Old September 9 2009, 02:43 PM   #82
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An extremely popular, successful and entertaining movie is what he created. Thanks for asking.

That sequence "does not explain everything" - in fact, it elaborates on and explains one or two things that aren't of enormous importance except in a completist, OCD kind of way. If anything, the brief passage removed from the "ice cave" scene does more to ease the awkwardness of a couple of plot contrivances than does anything in the "prison planet" scene.

That said - and you're not going to like this - if you're thinking very much about a movie while you're watching it, it's not doing what a movie should do. Ideally a movie of this kind ia an immersive experience, and if it matters you think about it later.
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Old September 9 2009, 03:13 PM   #83
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That said - and you're not going to like this - if you're thinking very much about a movie while you're watching it, it's not doing what a movie should do. Ideally a movie of this kind ia an immersive experience, and if it matters you think about it later.
Sorry, I have a brain that doesn't have an off switch. If I start thinking about the movie while watching it then it's not my fault. And I have seen many movies of that kind that were immersive to me, and intelligent, and successful, so it's not impossible, and not too much to ask for.

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Old September 9 2009, 07:17 PM   #84
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Re: Nero: "It happened! I saw it happen..."

I just took that line as evidence that Nero was emotionally disturbed and could not be reasoned with. (It also bears a disturbing resemblance to the way an ex used to argue; i.e., "my emotional reality trumps your physical reality.")
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