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Old August 23 2009, 09:11 AM   #16
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Re: My Take on Voyager Mk II

Sorry, but too much screwing up of the main characters. Besides that, I was happy with seasons 1,2 and 3 as they were.
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Old August 23 2009, 02:15 PM   #17
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Sorry I hate it, they're trying to get home but you have them getting jobs and flying around in circles. Their technology is more advanced than what you seem to think.
Not in circles, they went in a linear path from the Periphery to the Central Core to see if they could find help there. A friend gave me a justification/handwaved contrivance to explain how they didn't know exactly where they were because otherwise the show couldn't flesh out the alien races and polities they encountered into the greater storyline.
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Old August 23 2009, 05:32 PM   #18
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I forgot to mention, that ending bit with VOY being attacked by the Kazon was the middle of Season 2 and not the finale.

Second half of Season Two

The next episode would open up with the huge explosion having come from the Kazon Carrier, as several Vidiian Cruisers show up and open fire on the Kazon force.

They destroy Cullah's ship, killing him. But I'd leave it ambiguous as to whether or not Seska got out alive.

The rest of the Kazon forces break off the attack and retreat back to the Periphery while the Vidiian ships pick up the VOY escape pods and tractor the ship away from the battlefield to Vidiian space, along with the Talaxian fighters.

The pods are put in the same large cargo area and the crew exit, ready to fight to the death rather than be harvested, when a figure appears and tells them that it's alright, they will all live nice healthy long lives.

It's Chakotay.

End teaser.

The Vidiian crewmembers all come to Voyager crew and thank them for ridding them of the Phage. Chakotay explains that the B'Ellanas found out that since weren’t meant to last and their bodies were falling apart they decided to use what time they had left to help Voyager. They asked to be given back to the Vidiians so they could create a cure for the Phage from them. This would then make them grateful enough to ally with VOY and give them the major allies they needed at that point (as the League was turning out to be a dead end).

Janeway (who was recovered from the ruined bridge of Voyager) would wake up to Chakotay and Tuvok in a Vidiian med-bay, where Chakotay would explain everything to her.

The Vidiians now have the cure and have taken VOY to a Vidiian outpost to repair it. It will take time so the crew can rest and recover. A lot of them need it, especially the ones who are rather taken back at the idea of the Vidiians being their allies now.

Fortunately, Denara Pel is there to serve as the Vidiian liaison to the crew, so they can at least trust her.

The Conclave

Time would pass, with Neelix seeing how worshipful the Vidiians now are acting towards the VOY crew, and how they talk about how they can finally return to their older ways of being "teachers and scientists" and stuff, like they were millennia ago. But others are more depressed, wondering how they can make up for what they've been doing, who would stand up for them or believe them? One ship full of unknown aliens isn't enough.

Neelix would then come up to the Vidiian Commander of the base and offer a proposal to them.

Janeway would be going over some repairs/upgrades the ship is getting from the Vidiians, when a Vidiian diplomat would come to her and tell her what a wonderful idea she proposed and how it will be the old age of greatness again.

Janeway would wonder what this guy is talking about, and is stunned when she finds out:

Neelix told the Vidiians that if they want their old reputation, or anyone willing to stand up for them, they could give a good message by liberating the Talaxians from the Haakonian Occupation as the Talaxians were a well-liked people with a reputation for honesty. The Vidiians are already assembling a military force to begin the campaign if the Haakonians refuse to withdraw via diplomacy.

Moreso, the Vidiians returning to the old ways and with allies can recreate the "Conclave", an interstellar alliance of worlds that once existed millennia ago but came to an end when the Vidiians (who were the primary proponents of the original Conclave) were infected with the Phage and the Conclave was all but destroyed in the "conflict" 2000 years ago that left most of the members of the Conclave extinct and their worlds ruined.

It turns out that what is now known as the Periphery was once a rich area teeming with intelligent life, but the "great war" left it all virtually destroyed and the life extinct, with the surviving races in what is now the Central Core joining into the League of Spacefaring Civilizations. This is the origin of the ruins and devastated worlds VOY encountered on their way through the Periphery.

Janeway is understandable furious when she realizes who suggested this idea to the Vidiians, claiming the VOY crew were the ones who originated the idea. Confronting Neelix is a scene similar to the Sisko-Garak confrontation at the end of "Pale Moonlight" she accuses him of exploiting the Vidiians for his own ends.

He counters that what he's done is best for everyone involved. The Talaxians will be free and will be more than willing to join this new "Conclave" the Vidiians want to create as to gain a powerful military ally (the Talaxians however will still see the Vidiians as organ harvesters, and when they liberate Talax they'll just think Neelix went nuts and sold them all out in mass-harvest so at first the Talax rebels will fight against the Vidiian and VOY forces), and their PR skills will be enough to convince other powers in the Periphery to join. VOY will have helped to stabilize what was a chaotic, disjointed region.

And he states he also did it for VOY as well, because "Since you can't go home, you can bring home here". He's been studying their "Federation" and while he finds some of it to be left wanting, he thinks it's a good basic idea. Janeway shoots back that the Federation’s values are something she and the crew worked hard to preserve, and it got them this far. Neelix should know better than to just discard them right in her face. Neelix then apologizes and admits that maybe there is such a thing as too much cynicism.

Janeway reluctantly agrees with Neelix, after even Tuvok (it's logical) and Chakotay (it helps people and give VOY all the allies they'll ever need) also side with him.

But as punishment, she makes Neelix the VOY Ambassador to the Vidiians, so he has to spend all his time around the guys who took his lungs.

The History of the Conclave’s Fall

The "Great War" that caused the Vidiians to be infected with the Phage, made the Conclave fall apart and destroyed all the life that existed in the Periphery was against the Fluidics when they first entered this dimension from a huge Fluidic Rift that closed soon after they arrived.

They fought a war against the alien races of the region 2000 years ago, using their bio-infection (that thing they did where if you get punched or slashed by them their DNA enters you and eats you alive), their telepathic powers and their vast bio-weapon power to destroy planets and entire species, with the Conclave and other powers desperately fighting for their lives.

There was another major power around, the mysterious and isolationist Voth, and it was their aid in the war that beat back and held off the Fluidics for the most part. But they took so much loss of life and damage in the war they removed themselves from the Galactic Public in all ways and practically disappeared after the war, no one having seen them since.

The Conclave's best minds were able to come up with a bio-weapon that halted the Fluidic advance and killed many of them, but not before the Vidiians themselves were infected with Fluidic DNA. They tried using their advanced medical tech to stop it, but instead they caused the Fluidic DNA to mutate into the Phage, which then spread to their entire race and turned the Vidiians into the desperate organ-hunters they were in the beginning of VOY. The Conclave's knowledge was lost to time and so was the bio-weapon they used.

The few surviving Fluidics then retreated and have spent the last 2000 years rebuilding their species and their forces for another war, with the League of Spacefaring Civilizations preparing for their return.

Also, due to the Fluidics' destructive usage of telepathy in the Fluidic Wars, this is what caused the Devore Empire to be so anti-telepathic and develop anti-telepathy technologies.
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Old August 23 2009, 11:24 PM   #19
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Voyager doesn't necessarily need such fleshing out of alien races. For me, Voyager is about moving on and exploring, that's why the Kazon arc was so annoying. The show should have been fairly episodic with new wonderful and unique plots each episode. It just needed much more continuity and even character development.
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Old August 26 2009, 02:33 AM   #20
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Season 3

Kes would take over as a second Doctor on the ship, as Ocampa maturation is also faster mentally and she studied as the Ship Nurse long enough to take in Federation Medical knowledge. By this point she’d be physically in her mid-twenties and now played be Jennifer Lien.

The crew would have to deal with the fact that the child they used to all see as a younger sister or even a daughter (in Janeway's case, for example) is now an adult just as mature and intelligent as them or even more mature and intelligent as them in some cases.

Tom would have to deal with his attraction to her because to him she was only a kid when they first met.

After helping to go through old Conclave technology and databanks that the Vaadwaur and Vidiians held onto (since Federation technology is the result of several races putting their sciences together it’s the similar basis for the Old Conclave’s multi-species sciences) VOY uploads some old Conclave Starmaps onto the Astrometrics computers. When combined with the Federation Starcharts they figure out that they're in the Beta Quadrant, but 30,000 LY from the edge of the known BQ so the area they're in is now designated the "Deep-Beta Quadrant".

The Ocampa are allowed into the Neo-Conclave at Kes' request so they can have some telepaths/telekinetics and Kes' people can be properly aided in surviving without the Caretaker. This causes tensions with the Devore Empire due to their anti-telepath stance.

Year of Hell

The Neo-Conclave is then contacted by the Krenim Imperial Family who request their aid in stopping their civil war.

They decide to intervene when the Imperial Family tell them about who is leading the military revolt and what kind of power he wields:

The Krenim people are a society who consider existence to be one big equation that they seek to manipulate and add new variables to in order to create their ideal future. They have this machine they found on ancient ruins of an extinct elder race that basically is a very accurate simulation predictor: It takes into account all available data on everything and shows you the most probable outcome. They used it to make the Krenim a powerful empire by identifying whatever variables can threaten them, then destroy/alter/remove those variables (alien races that may become future rivals, Krenim who can become dangerous revolutionaries, etc).

One of their best minds, a military scientist named Annorax studied the device and used the temporal knowledge to eventually develop temporal technologies and stuff that have made the Krenim a major power that most don't cross other than the unlucky guys who get conquered/defeated because they're "unstable variables in the equation".

Annorax's greatest achievement is the timeship weapon, which can only be used sparingly (the core uses vast amounts of power and takes a long time to recharge for a full incursion) and he built it as an anti-Fluidic weapon to defend themselves with.

The Imperial Family tell the Conclave that Annorax eventually just became full of himself and started the military coup to take over the Imperium, and he armed the forces loyal to him with temporal weapons he designed based on information he gained from the artifact, like the Chroniton warheads and stuff. So even though they are outnumbered from the forces loyal to the Imperial Family, they have superior weapons and are winning in battle.

VOY and the Conclave get involved due to the extreme danger the Timeship poses and what kind of damage it could do to the time-space continuum, but since the Talaxians are still rebuilding and the Vidiians and Kazon are spread out thinly protecting Talaxian space and the other new worlds of the Neo-Conclave, VOY is barely able to match the Annorax Krenim’s numbers with what available Vidiian, Kazon, Talaxian and Vaadwaur ships there are, but the tables are turned when they combine with what remains of the Krenim Loyalist faction. The League occasional help out.

Things go okay for a while until Annorax "deletes" other races, changing the timeline so now VOY and their side are getting trashed in continuous battle until they manage to find a way to create temporal shields like they did in-canon, and give this information to the Krenim loyalists. They then encounter Annorax himself with his Timeship and learns the whole truth: Annorax originally built the Timeship as a last resort anti-Fluidic weapon, but under heavy pressure from the Imperial Family politicians and the military he was forced into using it on the Rilnar, whom the Krenim were in a losing war with. He succeeded in erasing them and turning the Krenim Empire into an even stronger power but it also erased his family and their home colony world. Millions of Krenim also ended up dying from plagues they were immune to in the original timeline because of antibodies they got from the Rilnar (who no longer exist), like in the original TV story. When he returned to the Krenim Imperials and told them of what happened (they didn't remember, as they were also affected by the time change) he begged them to let him keep using the Timeship to try and restore his family and those lost, but the Imperials were horrified at the true power of the Timeship and ordered Annorax to cease.

In his grief he launched his coup to take over so that he could guide the Krenim destiny and restore what was taken from him and began erasing other races as well. So the Imperial family’s abuse of the Anti-Fluidic tech and the twisting of Annorax's good intentions is what really caused this mess to begin with.


Tomorrow's Voyager

During one battle near the end of the Krenim War arc, the first experimental temporal shields that VOY creates to counter Annorax's weapons reacts with a temporal warhead/photon torpedo exchange and opens a temporal rift that sucks VOY 30 years into the future.

Once there they find that in this future the Borg assimilated the Fluidics but instead of just absorbing them the Fluidics’ own collective mind merged with the Borg one, creating a hybrid race one that has inherited the Fluidics' xenocidal desires and the power/infrastructure of the Borg Collective, meaning the Borg/Fluidics have been using all their power to destroy everything they encounter instead of just assimilating what they think is worth it. The Neo-Conclave and League have been all but destroyed and the remnants of the Alpha Quadrant powers are desperately fighting off endless Borg/Fluidic attacks (they're busying attacking the whole galaxy so they can't focus entirely on the small area of the Alpha/Beta Quadrants Trek takes place in).

So when they get back through the time warp and back to the Krenim war they have more of a reason to help out in the Fluidics situation.

In the end they succeed in destroying the Timeship, but VOY and the Imperial Flagship keep their time-shields up so they are unaffected by the change back to the original timeline. The Imperial Family remember everything and so do VOY (so whatever damage they took is still there, and whatever permanent injuries crewmembers took is still there, etc), Annorax is reunited with his wife and stuff only in the revised timeline he never built the Timeship, so the Krenim Imperium isn't the Megapower it was, but is still a great power due to the Temporal Weapons Annorax did build (Chroniton Warheads and stuff, still exist) and the deleted races are back.

The Krenim join the Conclave out of gratitude, but agree not to develop anything like the Timeship again, burying such dangerous knowledge.

And the ancient artifact the Krenim civilization has been guided by is revealed in the end as the same "species" as the Guardian of Forever.
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Old August 28 2009, 06:41 AM   #21
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And the ancient artifact the Krenim civilization has been guided by is revealed in the end as the same "species" as the Guardian of Forever.
I saw that coming from a mile away but, it's a pretty cool use of Harlan Ellison's idea. He might have actually liked that enough to approve its use in the show.
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^ Or sue the hell out of paramount anyway for not consulting him.
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Old August 31 2009, 04:19 AM   #23
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An Old Enemy

Working together the Vidiians, the VOY crew, the Talaxians, the Vaadwaur and the Krenim are able to re-create an ancient FTL Engine the old Conclave had that was able to move much faster than any current Warp Drive or even the League's FTL.

This new drive (Quantum Slipstream) is powered by resources found in the Periphery (not available in the Alpha Quadrant) and the one prototype they build begins testing for use on Voyager. With Denara Pel assembling a Conclave delegation they prepare to leave for Known Space to let Starfleet know about all that they've encountered as soon as the QSS is ready.

However, before they can go a major complication arises.

We cut to a Talaxian merchant ship/mining ship just minding its own business, the Captain has a pet that's a counterpart to a dog, etc, when a large object would appear on their scanners emerging from some kind of unknown rift near the ship, throwing it out of control.

VOY would pick up the automated distress beacon and send an away team to investigate.

Harry would be looking around in one area and find evidence of a fight with energy weapons, but no signs of disintegrated bodies on the Vidiian scanners (they use those now instead of Tricorders) and then locates one member of the crew at the communications, except he's dead. He looks like he was mauled by some vicious animal.

He would then go deeper and see several other crew members who have all been killed in the same way, and several of them look like they were fighting something when they died. He doesn't realize there's something in the chamber with him, and it seems to have extra "bits" on it that are artificial.

He then finds one sole surviving Talaxian who locked himself in a locker to survive, but he's in severe shock. As he calls the medical team on his communicator, Harry hears a growl and turns around just in time to barely dodge a tackle by the Captain's pet, which has been turned into a vicious killer. It has robotic enhancements and shoots tubules out of its mouth. It finally gets him pinned down, but before it can rip him up the Talaxian picks up Kim's phaser and kills the thing.

The survivor then tells the rescue team that a humongous vessel appeared out of no where and knocked their ship out of control before it beamed 2 of its crew onto the mining ship. They transported several of the mining crew away, but the remaining crew fought back and killed one of them with their weapons, but somehow the second one was unaffected by them (adaptative shield) but the Pet attacked and killed the other one with its' teeth and claws. Before it died the alien injected the pet with something that mutated it into a bio-mechanical monster; it then slaughtered the rest of the crew except him since he hid himself.

He'd show them the corpse of the alien the pet killed before it mutated: It's a Borg.

Scorpion



We'd open with the same teaser: A Borg ship (in this case, a Sphere) would contact some unknown force, and we'd see the Borg Sphere being blasted apart by it.


VOY realizes the huge ship must've been a Borg Cube, and the rift it emerged from was a Transwarp Conduit like the ones Lore’s Borg used in “Descent”.

VOY and the Conclave then contact the League and give them their information on the Borg in hopes to mobilize all the major forces. The League then begins sending out patrols to investigate these new intruders.

VOY would go searching when they receive information from League Sensor Outposts. It’s very tense, like in "Descent" where the ENT-D was always monitoring for Borg activity.

Eventually they find something, and not only is it a Borg signature, they read something else that the League Computer Servers they're interfacing with can identify when VOY's own computers cannot: Fluidic.

They arrive and find the same Borg Sphere from the teaser partially destroyed and maybe one or two dead Fluidic Bio-Ships as well. The League sends a battalion of troopers onboard the Sphere and VOY sends its own team to investigate on a shuttle.

This is mainly the same as what happened in VOY, where they encounter a Fluidic soldier, Harry gets infected, etc.

They leave, but someone else had crawled onboard their shuttle, a female Borg.

She reveals herself and tries to assimilate them as the shuttle leaves the Borg ship, but at the same time a group of Borg corner the Fluidic on the Sphere and assimilate it; As it is assimilated it lets out a psychic "scream" that overloads the Borg it is now connected to which causes a massive "system crash" that terminates the Collective onboard the Sphere. The female Borg is far enough away on the shuttle that she doesn't die but her connection to the Borg is weakened.

She tells them she is Seven of Nine and as she is alone and outnumbered/outgunned she will not harm them. When asked about what the Borg are doing in this area of the galaxy she informs them that the Borg recently picked up energy emissions from this part of the Beta Quadrant that interested them, so they sent a scout force to investigate.

(The emissions are the energies the Fluidics gave off in the Fluidic Wars 2000 years ago, it just took that long for the energy emissions to naturally make it far enough to be picked up by a Borg ship)

The VOY crew figure out from what information the League and Old Conclave records have on the Fluidics that they are all powerful telepaths (explaining the anti-telepathic stance of the Devore Empire) that have their own form of a Collective although each Fluidic is an individual unto themselves. When the Borg tried to assimilate one of them the Fluidic's own telepathic mind reacted badly to being forcibly grafted to the Collective, and "self-destructed", but since it was linked to the immediate Borg when it died the psychic shock went into them as well and killed them all.

So it seems that being assimilated causes Mutually Assured Destruction for the Fluidics and Borg, and since the Borg can't assimilate them they intend to now destroy them.

Thus the season ends on the prospect of an all-out war between the Borg and the Fluidics, with the Deep-Beta Quadrant as the battlefield.
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Season Four

For the S4 premiere the VOY crew, League and Conclave are wondering what they heck they're going to do now with the possibility of the Deep-Beta Quadrant becoming the battlefield for an all-out Borg-Fluidic War. The VOY crew in particular are alarmed because to them this is the beginning of the dark future they experienced when they were hurled 30 years into the future in “Tomorrow’s Voyager”.

Also, the VOY crew wonder what to do with the drone they picked up, since the Fluidic overload that killed the Sphere also terminated her connection to the Collective. Janeway decides that since she's not Borg anymore she gets to live, but under heavy security.

While trying to help Harry, the Vidiians try several new medical treatments they used in the last Fluidic Invasion to try and combat the Fluidic DNA infestation. They get the idea that a nanite attack may work, so they extract some from Seven (who's still semi-conscious) and experiment until they got it since Borg technology has the only nanites advanced enough.

They then find out from the League that there's a bigger build-up of dimensional rift energies (the energy given off whenever the Fluidics enter or exist those dimensional rifts they can make) and the Fluidics are using them to enter a variation of their home Fluidic Space (which is kind of like B5 Hyperspace in this version) to travel without being detected and then attack the Borg in regular space when they re-emerge. The readings aren’t exactly the same as from the Fluidic Wars, meaning they can’t make a rift back to the original Fluidic Space they emerged from for some reason.

They track the battles down, coming across lots of smaller Borg ships that have been damaged or destroyed and lots of dead Fluidic bioships as well (they're equally matched) until they find out the Borg have assimilated an entire planet as the scout force's Base of Operations.

They're trying to build a Transwarp gateway on this side so they can summon unlimited Borg reinforcements from the Delta Quadrant (since the Transwarp Conduit the Scout force used to arrive was more or less a one-way shot).

Janeway then decides to wait until the Fluidics have overwhelmed the Borg Scout force (which is only one Cube and maybe a few smaller probe ships and that one Sphere that was destroyed earlier) and use their planetkiller attack to destroy the Borg planet.

Seven tries to stop them when she wakes up, breaking out of sickbay and into engineering, but the crew manage to stop her (maybe Kes with her TK holds her in place without having to touch her). With the last of the Borg in this quadrant gone she goes despondent.

VOY tests out the nanites as a weapon on the Fluidic ships which destroys them. While the Fluidics pull back to analyze their destroyed ships' to find out what the heck happened Voyager and the combined Conclave/League fleet retreat.

It's postulated that the Fluidics may find a way to neutralize the nanites, but at least now the Conclave have a weapon that once again works on the Fluidics. The League wants it but the Conclave then puts them in their place saying that they need it for further research, and if the League tries anything they'll destroy the nanites and all their data on them. The League isn’t willing to call their bluff.


The Doctor then gives them the sad news that while they were able to create the nanite weapon from their treatment of Harry, it was too late to save him and he had died from the Fluidic DNA infection.

Secretly the Conclave gives the nanotech data to VOY for safekeeping, and with that and their new crewmate (Seven) as well as the Concave delegation waiting to make contact with the Federation, VOY activates the Slipstream Drive and sets a course for their last friendly location, DS9.

However, since this is around 2375/2376, they have a surprise waiting for them back in the Alpha Quadrant...

Characters

Kes by this point is now a full adult (she was a 10 year in S1, a young teenager in S2, about 17 in S3 and by S4 she's early to mid twenties). She also has more control over her Telepathy and Telekinesis, and as a side-effect of being exposed to chroniton radiation in "Year of Hell" she now has occasion telepathic flashes of the future (she sees through her future self’s eyes or even is projected into her future self at times).

This version of Seven wouldn't be the "I want to go back to the Collective" version but more like a combo of Hugh and maybe Kai from LEXX since her past memories are totally gone and she wasn't openly conscious of what was happening to her all these years. She wouldn't even remember her human name (and how a human who wasn't from Wolf 359 got to the Borg years before Wolf would be a mystery). Her skin color and hair start to grow back but other implants stay in just so the Feds don't accidentally activate that Borg self-destruct.
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VOY activates the Slipstream Drive and sets a course for their last friendly location, DS9.

However, since this is around 2375/2376, they have a surprise waiting for them back in the Alpha Quadrant...
Now, that would have made Voyager much more interesting...
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VOY activates the Slipstream Drive and sets a course for their last friendly location, DS9.

However, since this is around 2375/2376, they have a surprise waiting for them back in the Alpha Quadrant...
Now, that would have made Voyager much more interesting...
Similar to what was originally planned at the end of Voyager's 4th Season.

(For those who don't know the original plans were for Voyager to make it home at the end of Season 4).
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VOY activates the Slipstream Drive and sets a course for their last friendly location, DS9.

However, since this is around 2375/2376, they have a surprise waiting for them back in the Alpha Quadrant...
Now, that would have made Voyager much more interesting...
Similar to what was originally planned at the end of Voyager's 4th Season.

(For those who don't know the original plans were for Voyager to make it home at the end of Season 4).
Why was that plan never carried out?
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Now, that would have made Voyager much more interesting...
Similar to what was originally planned at the end of Voyager's 4th Season.

(For those who don't know the original plans were for Voyager to make it home at the end of Season 4).
Why was that plan never carried out?
The DS9 producers wanted the Dominion War wrapped up in WYLB. One of the discussed endings was that they would have Voyager return home to take over the Dominion War. It was mentioned in Star Trek: Action.
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Old September 8 2009, 09:33 PM   #29
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Re: My Take on Voyager Mk II

I'm starting the betting pot right now for when the inevitable Niner/Voy Hater will pop with a "thank god those morons didn't get their filthy claws into my perfect DS9!"
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Similar to what was originally planned at the end of Voyager's 4th Season.

(For those who don't know the original plans were for Voyager to make it home at the end of Season 4).
Why was that plan never carried out?
The DS9 producers wanted the Dominion War wrapped up in WYLB. One of the discussed endings was that they would have Voyager return home to take over the Dominion War. It was mentioned in Star Trek: Action.
Too bad. It would have been epic.

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I'm starting the betting pot right now for when the inevitable Niner/Voy Hater will pop with a "thank god those morons didn't get their filthy claws into my perfect DS9!"
Fighting the Dominion would have only made Voyager better. Plus, with all their experience fighting impossible odds against everyone throughout the Delta Quadrant, the Dominion would have had a very serious problem.
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