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Old September 1 2009, 10:47 AM   #16
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I would say my biggest disappointment with Alias was Sydney's disappearance. I wanted season 3 to focus on her on the other side of the fence, working her new alias. It would have kept the theme of the show, while being new and not still yanking Sloane's chain. I stopped watching after the end of season 3, they just messed up Mr. Sark too much.
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Old September 1 2009, 04:33 PM   #17
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I would say my biggest disappointments with the series have to do with the Rambaldi mythology and the fact that it really didn't go anywhere interesting. They kept bringing it up, and kept referencing all of these things, but in the end, I don't think any of it made sense and I never felt that Sydney got to accomplish something major as her destiny as "the chosen one". There were a lot of things introduced or mentioned that never got fully addressed or followed-up on. Obviously, the writers didn't really know what to do with Rambaldi.
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Old September 1 2009, 11:46 PM   #18
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Yeah, Rambaldi got completely out of hand. Especially in Season 3 where they were looking for a Rambaldi artifact a week. I was expecting them to start looking for Rambaldi's left nut by the end of it.

The episode in season three where Ricky Gervais played an IRA bomber was great and stands with the best of the first two seasons.
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Old September 2 2009, 02:02 AM   #19
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While they never really explained (or even attempted to) a lot of the individual devices that Rambaldi built, the final resolution of Sydney's plot I thought made sense. She did indeed render the greatest power unto utter desolation.
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Old September 2 2009, 03:45 AM   #20
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She did indeed render the greatest power unto utter desolation.
I think that phrase gets the grammar wrong. "Render unto" means to give to: "Render unto Caesar what is Caesar's" means "give the Romans what they're entitled to." Rearrange that and you get "Render [what is Caesar's] unto Caesar." So "render A unto B" means "give A to B." How do you give the greatest power to utter desolation? I think the writers intended it to mean that she would use the greatest power to cause utter desolation, but "render... unto" is decidedly not the correct construction to use for that. They were just trying to sound all fancy and archaic and didn't think it through.
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Old September 2 2009, 06:20 AM   #21
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^ Yeah, it definitely sounds better then "she's totally gonna fuck shit up".
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Old September 2 2009, 03:54 PM   #22
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How do you give the greatest power to utter desolation? I think the writers intended it to mean that she would use the greatest power to cause utter desolation
Actually, no. It means what it sounds like.
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Old September 2 2009, 04:23 PM   #23
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^But that's not rendering the greatest power unto utter desolation -- it's rendering utter desolation unto the greatest power. "Render A unto B" is not synonymous with "Render B unto A." Like I said, they got the grammar wrong. In this case, they got the word order backward.
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Old September 2 2009, 11:26 PM   #24
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Oh, man. Did I seriously effe up by buying all 5 seasons at once w/o ever seeing the show? Sounds like I made a big mistake.
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Old September 3 2009, 06:13 AM   #25
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^ Well, I personally enjoyed all five season; some more then others. So yeah, I think you made a good decision by getting all five seasons.
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Old September 3 2009, 04:14 PM   #26
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Oh, man. Did I seriously effe up by buying all 5 seasons at once w/o ever seeing the show? Sounds like I made a big mistake.
Not in the slightest, Alias is a quality show (though I wouldnt argue that season four is a bit meh). You should enjoy it.
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Old September 3 2009, 04:55 PM   #27
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^ Well, I personally enjoyed all five season; some more then others. So yeah, I think you made a good decision by getting all five seasons.
Seconded. I think it's a fun show on the whole
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Old September 3 2009, 05:03 PM   #28
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I think seasons 3 and 4 are weak, implausible, and often tiresome, but at least they have Melissa George and Mia Maestro, respectively, so they aren't all bad.

And am I the only one who liked Arvin Sloane better as a reformed and well-intentioned character than as a villain? I liked him and hated Jack Bristow, so I was hoping the series would end up with Sloane as the hero and Jack as the villain.
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Old September 3 2009, 11:30 PM   #29
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Arvin Sloane as a good guy wasn't bad but they played that storyline way too long. Jack Bristow was the man...one of my favorite TV characters.
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Old September 4 2009, 10:43 PM   #30
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I actually like most of season 3, particularly once they revealed Melissa George's character to be evil and paired her up with Sark. The two of them made a great team and I thought the actors had pretty good chemistry. Some of the plot/story element in season 3 didn't pay off very well, though. Season 4 is a massive failure on many levels.
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