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Old August 26 2009, 08:27 AM   #271
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Re: Whatever happened to Starship Exeter?

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I have a bunch of Garrovick artwork from the comic already. Just throwing that out there.
Did you hear that Michael? Kail is experienced in drawing Garrovick! In fact, he's already drawn! And he looks great.
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Old August 26 2009, 09:17 PM   #272
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I have a bunch of Garrovick artwork from the comic already. Just throwing that out there.
Did you hear that Michael? Kail is experienced in drawing Garrovick! In fact, he's already drawn! And he looks great.
I know...it was Kail's Exeter comic that really helped me realize he could help with Farragut.

I don't think it has anything to do with the ability to put him in...it is Jimm's and Farragut's desire to do a cross over. I certainly think it is a good idea, but each group may want to stand out on their own.

With that being said, I have put the invite out there for Jimm to make a 'vocal appearance' in the next episode. He just hasn't responded yet (he is typically slow with e-mail).
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Old August 26 2009, 11:05 PM   #273
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Re: Whatever happened to Starship Exeter?

No kidding...I haven't heard back from Jimm on any emails in six months! lol
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Old August 27 2009, 04:22 AM   #274
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Re: Whatever happened to Starship Exeter?

Jimm is less interested in spending time on the Internet than anyone under the age of forty that I've ever met. He's terribly mentally healthy in that respect.
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Old August 27 2009, 06:57 AM   #275
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Re: Whatever happened to Starship Exeter?

Bummer, I would really like to have heard his views on the project and so on. Dennis, did he post much back in the initial stages of the project? Would it be possible to find his old posts?
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Old August 27 2009, 07:09 AM   #276
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Re: Whatever happened to Starship Exeter?

Michael:
I'm glad you got the invite out to Jimm.

Kail:
See if a test drawing of Garrovick could tempt Michael.

Dennis:
Love the Kennedy quote you tagged on postings.
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Old August 27 2009, 05:10 PM   #277
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Re: Whatever happened to Starship Exeter?

Thanks.

DestinyCaptain, Jimm and I have always communicated primarily by phone - often lengthy conversations (I can tell you that he enjoyed J.J. Abrams's Star Trek a good deal). Emails tend to be of the "that shot looks good, go ahead and upload the full rendering to the server" type.

The first communication I ever had from Jimm was to an email I sent him in May or June of 2004, to my cell late one afternoon while I was grocery shopping.
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Old August 27 2009, 06:20 PM   #278
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Re: Whatever happened to Starship Exeter?

I think Starship Exeter is awesome as long as power and politics don't go to Jimm's head.
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Old August 27 2009, 07:56 PM   #279
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There's not enough of either involved in Starship Exeter to make that much of a risk.
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Old August 27 2009, 09:38 PM   #280
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Well there should be if it's done right. So far so good. Fans will trickle in especially if it gets better. Believe me they're waiting. Trekkies three is waiting. Why can't Jimm do what James Cawley is doing. There's no saying how good it could get. It could blow Paramount away someday.
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Old August 28 2009, 12:28 AM   #281
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Well there should be if it's done right. So far so good. Fans will trickle in especially if it gets better. Believe me they're waiting. Trekkies three is waiting. Why can't Jimm do what James Cawley is doing. There's no saying how good it could get. It could blow Paramount away someday.
There is the small matter of that pesky Copyright Paramount has on the franchise. James Cawley and CEC/RFS have gotten rights to web production of 'Buck Rogers Begins' and I'm guessing will try to turn that into cash, but with the success of JJA Trek in making money, you can kiss any hope that Paramount might license Trek usage to fan productions 'goodbye'.
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Old August 28 2009, 02:37 AM   #282
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I'm sorry, but that doesn't make any sense. star Trek is always changing. A good product is a good product. What Gene did could be done again with the right people. Classic Trek vrs nu Trek sounds like the coke a cola scheme. It turned out pretty good for them. I don't see how one produced version hurts another. Exeter is not looking to make money. Why can Buck Rogers make money and not Star Trek. I don't get it. It's the people who decide not the brass.
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Old August 28 2009, 02:41 AM   #283
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I'm sorry, but that doesn't make any sense. star Trek is always changing. A good product is a good product. What Gene did could be done again with the right people. Classic Trek vrs nu Trek sounds like the coke a cola scheme. It turned out pretty good for them. I don't see how one produced version hurts another. Exeter is not looking to make money. Why can Buck Rogers make money and not Star Trek. I don't get it. It's the people who decide not the brass.
In this case Paramount OWNS Star Trek and can license it how it pleases.
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Old August 28 2009, 03:17 AM   #284
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I'm sorry, but that doesn't make any sense. star Trek is always changing. A good product is a good product. What Gene did could be done again with the right people. Classic Trek vrs nu Trek sounds like the coke a cola scheme. It turned out pretty good for them. I don't see how one produced version hurts another. Exeter is not looking to make money. Why can Buck Rogers make money and not Star Trek. I don't get it. It's the people who decide not the brass.
It's the owners of the property who decide, not the people. The "people" don't get to make money from someone else's Star Trek property any more than the "people" can decide to sell your car and make money from it.

We can make money from Buck Rogers because we've secured permission--that is, a license to the property from the owners of "Buck Rogers" to do exactly that. We can't make a single dime from Star Trek because we haven't secured permission--that is, a license to the property from the companies that own it. That's why it's free to viewers. We make the episodes and are obligated to get nothing in return.

Having different versions of the Star Trek universe out there might or might not be a good idea. But it would, of course, be up to the owners of Star Trek to decide what's best for Star Trek.
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Old August 28 2009, 05:46 AM   #285
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Re: Whatever happened to Starship Exeter?

I think Xortex is trying to make the case that these fan productions aren't doing anything to compete with Paramount's product, but instead complement it. Certainly it's Paramount's right to discourage anyone else from making a profit on their trademark, but some might argue that that isn't the smartest choice.

In a perfect world, I'd like to see Paramount try to nurture these fan-based productions and let them earn a profit in exchange for a fair percentage.
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