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Old August 23 2009, 12:07 AM   #16
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I'm waiting for the day when the Japanese starts shooting them. If I was the captain of a boat and some guys try to board it I will kill them and throw their bodies in the sea. How would I know they arent up to some mischief that will cause harm to me or my crew.
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Old August 23 2009, 03:04 PM   #17
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I checked it out tonight because of another thread elsewhere, and I mist say that the sea shepards are pretty much just Eco-terrorists
I've watched a couple of episodes but probably not the last one and I have to agree with you here. I certainly don't feel bad when anyone on the Sea Shepard gets hurt. And I love those sonic devices!

While I wish there was no need to whale, what these people are doing is extremely dangerous to humans. Their time might be better spent educating the people of Japan (hopefully thats still okay to use) so internal pressure would stop the whaling.
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Old August 23 2009, 10:20 PM   #18
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These guys are really wasting their time. Japan is going to do as it pleases and in the end more whales are going to die and their futile efforts will get nowhere. They can't force a country to stop doing what it wants.
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Old August 23 2009, 10:27 PM   #19
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My roomies and I have watched this show, and found ourselves actively rooting against the Sea Shepherds pretty much the whole time. Ever since the captain pulled that ridiculous stunt where he faked getting shot, the entire crew lost credibility. Especially the captain...
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Old August 24 2009, 03:46 AM   #20
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Well, I didn't see the first season. Wikipedia remains neutral on the issue and just says that the Japanese claim he faked getting shot. Is it obviously fake? The whaling crew did intentionally try and crash a helicopter, so I don't know why they wouldn't try something else as well.
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Old August 24 2009, 04:33 AM   #21
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I tried looking for a clip, I couldn't find one. It seemed pretty fake to me. There was only one "gunshot" that just happened to hit the captain right where he wears his Sea Shepherds badge. It's just far too convenient for a whaler to have hit the captain right there on rough seas.

Hard to describe, but it looked fake, and seemed like a publicity stunt.
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Old August 24 2009, 05:27 AM   #22
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I caught on this show towards the end but thought it was pretty entertaining. At first, I thought it was funny how their tactics were so ineffective and how the Japanese always had the upper hand.

But after watching the episodes more, and seeing the whales get shot with the harpoon and dragged onto the processing ship, I have to say it's given me more insight into their cause.
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Old August 24 2009, 05:36 AM   #23
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Green Peace is as bad as PETA.
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Old August 24 2009, 07:11 AM   #24
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But after watching the episodes more, and seeing the whales get shot with the harpoon and dragged onto the processing ship, I have to say it's given me more insight into their cause.
Yeah, that's the reason I started this thread.
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Old August 24 2009, 02:42 PM   #25
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I checked it out tonight because of another thread elsewhere, and I mist say that the sea shepards are pretty much just Eco-terrorists
I've watched a couple of episodes but probably not the last one and I have to agree with you here. I certainly don't feel bad when anyone on the Sea Shepard gets hurt. And I love those sonic devices!

While I wish there was no need to whale, what these people are doing is extremely dangerous to humans. Their time might be better spent educating the people of Japan (hopefully thats still okay to use) so internal pressure would stop the whaling.
Personally I'm disappointed that the actions of the Sea Shepherds are even necessary. The Aust navy should sink the whaler ships and cart the whalers home without any of their ill gotten gains. Evil, evil people.
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Old August 24 2009, 11:51 PM   #26
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If they were killing the whales, yanking out the harpoon and dumping them back in the ocean - doing it all for sport I would have a problem with it, but since they actually are hunting them to use them, I don't. I think whales are beautiful creatures of the deep, but I also think a cow is cute too, but I dont care about it when it is being served medium well on my plate with a baked potato.
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Old August 25 2009, 01:12 AM   #27
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The Aust navy should sink the whaler ships
Yes! If it's their territory they should be protecting it. I've never looked to see exactly where this area is and if the Australians have law on their side but it seems they should be protecting it.

Aren't guns illegal on non-military vessels? Or is that just when they are in port?
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Old August 25 2009, 05:55 AM   #28
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The territory is in Antarctica, which is claimed by various different countries, although the US doesn't recognize any of these claims. The specific area is claimed by Australia, which has designated it a whale sanctuary. The Japanese, of course, dispute this claim. Pretty much the entire thing is in a legal gray area (are the Japanese hunting for research or for profit? Does Australia have the right to protect this area? If the Japanese are whaling illegally, does anyone have the right to stop them from whaling? If not, are these actions, which take place under the Dutch flag, an act of war by the Netherlands?).
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Old August 25 2009, 02:41 PM   #29
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Just the though of me being able to blast those dipshits with a water cannon is enough to make me want to start whaling.
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Old August 26 2009, 01:24 AM   #30
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The territory is in Antarctica, which is claimed by various different countries, although the US doesn't recognize any of these claims. The specific area is claimed by Australia, which has designated it a whale sanctuary. The Japanese, of course, dispute this claim. Pretty much the entire thing is in a legal gray area (are the Japanese hunting for research or for profit? Does Australia have the right to protect this area? If the Japanese are whaling illegally, does anyone have the right to stop them from whaling? If not, are these actions, which take place under the Dutch flag, an act of war by the Netherlands?).
That was great info, thank you! Sounds like they would need the UN to back them on this against the Japanese. Not that that would mean much...
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