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Old August 16 2009, 04:30 PM   #31
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Re: Nero: "It happened! I saw it happen..."

Nero's line in here didn't disturb me nearly as much as the Plasma Coil dialogue between Worf and Riker in Generations.
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Old August 16 2009, 05:02 PM   #32
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Re: Nero: "It happened! I saw it happen..."

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"Timeline? This is no time to be arguing about time! We don't have the time!... what was I saying?"
I know that I KNOW this line, but where is it from? Now that I have read it, it is driving me mad.
Troi in First Contact, I think. She's a bit sloshed at the time.
Dammit! I was trying to give a subtle hint and see if Sector 7 would get it.

Oh, well.
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Old August 16 2009, 05:31 PM   #33
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"Timeline? This is no time to be arguing about time! We don't have the time!... what was I saying?"
I know that I KNOW this line, but where is it from? Now that I have read it, it is driving me mad.
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Old August 16 2009, 06:34 PM   #34
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I know that I KNOW this line, but where is it from? Now that I have read it, it is driving me mad.
Troi in First Contact, I think. She's a bit sloshed at the time.
Dammit! I was trying to give a subtle hint and see if Sector 7 would get it.

Oh, well.
I plead the lateness of the hour - I don't recall whether that was before or after the spam attack. Anyway, I wasn't at my sharpest and it wasn't until some time afterward that your hint clicked into place for me.
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Old August 16 2009, 06:39 PM   #35
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Re: Nero: "It happened! I saw it happen..."

Well, one of you will have to explain it to me because I still don't get it!
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Old August 16 2009, 06:57 PM   #36
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Well, one of you will have to explain it to me because I still don't get it!
In Greek mythology, the words "To the Fairest" or "For the Fairest" were written on the Golden Apple of Discord, brought to the wedding of Achilles' parents by a goddess who had been left off the guest list for being bad news at parties. There were consequences, including the eventual abduction of one Helen, wife of King Menelaus.
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Old August 16 2009, 08:40 PM   #37
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There were consequences, including the eventual abduction of one Helen, wife of King Menelaus.
Who, of course, was later known as Helen of Troy.
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Old August 16 2009, 08:48 PM   #38
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"...I watched it happen! Don't tell me it didn't happen!"

The overuse of the word "happen" in this sequence of dialogue makes me laugh like nothing else.

A friend of mine suggested that this was a pattern in the film, things being repeated in different ways for emphasis for the slow and stupid among the viewers...(cf. the sequence about the "alternate universe" between nuSpock etc. later).
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Not having seen the movie, is there any chance that the repeating of the wording is supposed to convey a severe emotional state, same as FAR BEYOND THE STARS, DS9's Sisko in the 1950s thing, when he keeps saying he made it, he created it, it was his, talking about his sf story as they are coming to take him away?

Alternately, it is in keeping with the redundancy of TMP's need to tell people that the thing is x minutes away from earth every scene.

For something approaching subtlety, you probably need the 'days instead of hours' code from TWOK, which I found people still not getting years later, even after seeing the movie time after time on video, when all they needed to do was pay attention to the way Shatner's 'Captain Spock' line leading into the exchange sounded a bit off the first time they saw it.

Oh and based on his 'fire everything' line, it sounds like Bana is doing West Coast California English, not 'you might be a redneck' English.
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Old August 16 2009, 08:57 PM   #39
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Nero was Romulan white trash, he never read Shakespeare like the Klingons did.
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Old August 16 2009, 08:59 PM   #40
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Couldn't it simply be that Orci & Kurtzman write worse dialogue than George Lucas at times?
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Old August 16 2009, 10:05 PM   #41
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Couldn't it simply be that Orci & Kurtzman write worse dialogue than George Lucas at times?
If you see them as the current generation's answer to Cash&Epps [LEGAL EAGLES, TOP GUN, DICK TRACY, TURNER & HOOCH, VIVA ROCK VEGAS, ANACONDA 1 & 2], then that HAS to be the answer.
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Old August 17 2009, 12:42 AM   #42
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Also, Nero's accent sounded to me closer to a Southerner than a Romulan.
How would you suggest a Romulan sound? There is no such thing as an "authentic" Romulan voice.

FWIW, I don't know why they didn't simply have Eric Bana use his real (Australian) accent.
Because everyone would wonder when Romulans decided to start talking like Australians.
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Old August 17 2009, 12:45 AM   #43
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I seem to remember that they made some fuzz about creating Romulan and Vulcan language for the movie. Where did that end up? Or did they mean they needed a consultant for Australian language?
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Old August 17 2009, 02:26 AM   #44
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Clearly Nero had some obsessive tendencies (waiting for Spock for 20 years for example), not surprising it should creep into his speech patterns.
LMAO seriously! that made me crack up.
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Old August 17 2009, 02:30 AM   #45
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I seem to remember that they made some fuzz about creating Romulan and Vulcan language for the movie. Where did that end up? Or did they mean they needed a consultant for Australian language?
Don't they already have a Vulcan language? I remember it being spoking in the trilogy movie, Wrath of Khan. I could be mistaken...
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