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Old August 2 2009, 04:07 PM   #31
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I can't recall - was the M'yra character used as Sulu's romantic interest the same way M'ress was (or did any romance actually develop with M'ress - it's been awhile)?
Sulu had a love triangle going during the first twelve issues of the second series. And then, all of the newbie characters -- like M'yra and Ensign Fouton -- got written out. (In the case of R.J. Blaise, she disappeared mid-story.)

Would the relationship had that resulted in Demora have necessarily contradicted any romance during the first DC run, or are the comics compatible with The Captain's Daughter?
I don't think that Demora precludes Sulu from being a skirt-chaser.

The comics could work with The Captain's Daughter, post-Star Trek IV, anyway.
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Old August 2 2009, 04:39 PM   #32
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The blurriness of the printing process (and the use of all caps) also led to a rule forbidding any comic book writer from using the word FLICK.
Actually, that very last part of your post is an urban myth (which also applies to the name CLINT). But for years I thought it was true as well.

All is explained here:

http://goodcomics.comicbookresources...-revealed-217/
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Old August 2 2009, 08:41 PM   #33
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IDW is publishing some of the DC stories in trade paperback in the Star Trek Archives series. Volume 6 is the Mirror Universe Saga and Volume 7 is The Best of Klingons, reprinting #1-4 of the Federation-Klingon war as well as the "Maggie's World/Judgment Day" two-parter from issues #31-32. They're due out September 29 and November 29, respectively.
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Old August 2 2009, 10:25 PM   #34
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Actually a DVD-ROM:

http://www.amazon.com/Star-Trek-Comp...9148274&sr=8-1

Hey, it's on sale for 30 bucks. I paid 40 when it first came out, and that was with a discount.
Hey Christopher does the complete collection also include the comic version of Ashes of Eden?
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Old August 2 2009, 10:31 PM   #35
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And then, all of the newbie characters -- like M'yra and Ensign Fouton -- got written out. (In the case of R.J. Blaise, she disappeared mid-story.)
Yep. Richard Arnold was worried the Series II original characters would become the new Konom/Bryce/Bearclaw, etc. and declared that no ongoing new character could last longer than a story arc. Aaaaarrrrgggghhhh!!!!

I wonder how the Fouton storyline would have played out had Arex taken on security instead - as hinted at in a Series I lettercol? Arex ultimately did shift over to security when Arex and M'Ress dropped into "New Frontier".
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Old August 2 2009, 10:33 PM   #36
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does the complete collection also include the comic version of Ashes of Eden?
Yep. It only omits the Klingon language variant issue of "Starfleet Academy" and the two "X-Men" crossovers.
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Old August 2 2009, 11:14 PM   #37
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I'd love to pick up the DVD-ROM and travel back down memory lane myself (it's easier than cracking open the boxes with the issues themselves, and it would allow me to fill in those last few gaps), but Amazon is not my friend on this one, so I still have to find a willing accomplice with a US shipping address to help me out. :/
Have you checked the local comic shops in Winnipeg? I'm in Ottawa, so I couldn't get it through Amazon either, but my usual comic shop was able to get the DVD for me through Diamond, the comics distributor. That was last year, but it may still be possible.
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Old August 2 2009, 11:22 PM   #38
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I'd love to pick up the DVD-ROM and travel back down memory lane myself (it's easier than cracking open the boxes with the issues themselves, and it would allow me to fill in those last few gaps), but Amazon is not my friend on this one, so I still have to find a willing accomplice with a US shipping address to help me out. :/
Have you checked the local comic shops in Winnipeg? I'm in Ottawa, so I couldn't get it through Amazon either, but my usual comic shop was able to get the DVD for me through Diamond, the comics distributor. That was last year, but it may still be possible.
Checking my Diamond retailer account...

Diamond still has it in stock. It's called the "Star Trek Complete Collection DVD," and the item code is JUL085429.

It's currently listing for $49.99 US.
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Old August 3 2009, 01:23 AM   #39
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It's ironic these classic comics should come up now. Over the weekend, I was going through some old folders on my hard drive, and there was an outline for an SCE story with Nancy Bryce and Liz Sherwood that I worked on for a long time. The outline is horrifically long -- even in its unfinished state, it's thirty pages -- but it was very much a labor of love, and certainly a valentine, to these characters who so were formative in my Star Trek experience.
So Pocket writers are free to use characters created for comics or games by other companies with the Trek license?

Just out of curiosity, any chance your outline could be reworked for a short story or novel, or do you think the plot is doomed never to see the light of day?
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Old August 3 2009, 01:33 AM   #40
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It's ironic these classic comics should come up now. Over the weekend, I was going through some old folders on my hard drive, and there was an outline for an SCE story with Nancy Bryce and Liz Sherwood that I worked on for a long time. The outline is horrifically long -- even in its unfinished state, it's thirty pages -- but it was very much a labor of love, and certainly a valentine, to these characters who so were formative in my Star Trek experience.
So Pocket writers are free to use characters created for comics or games by other companies with the Trek license?
Technically, since it's all owned by Paramount, then yes, characters can be used. In this particular case, I asked Bob Greenberger if he had any objections if I used Nancy Bryce and Liz Sherwood for this story. As long as I didn't do anything to them that annoyed Peter David, he said, we'd be golden.

It had some other comic book characters, too, like Grand Admiral Steven Turner and Vice Admiral Rittenhouse. Lyndra Dean, the reporter from The Mirror Universe Saga plays a key role. And Kaaj, from the Star Trek: Early Voyages comic was one of the story's key characters.

Just out of curiosity, any chance your outline could be reworked for a short story or novel, or do you think the plot is doomed never to see the light of day?
I don't think it will ever see the light of day. It's so engrained in one particular moment of Star Trek history that it wouldn't work elsewhere, with other characters. And there's no market for it now. Its time has passed.

All I will say about it is that it made the engineering in Ring Around the Sky look small. We're talking starships on unpowered ballistic trajectories, suited engineers with magnaboots attached to hulls with jerry-rigged harpoon guns, and Starfleet's wildest towing job.

It's possible that the backstory I created for Liz Sherwood, to reconcile her FYM appearance in Gemini with her movie-era appearance in the comics, may turn up in something else that's not Star Trek-related, because it was a neat idea. Dark, but also neat.

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Old August 3 2009, 01:38 AM   #41
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does the complete collection also include the comic version of Ashes of Eden?
Yep. It only omits the Klingon language variant issue of "Starfleet Academy" and the two "X-Men" crossovers.
Thanks for telling me.
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Old August 3 2009, 01:45 PM   #42
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Why won't they release that comics DVD in the UK?

:'-(

Someone tell Star Trek to get over its personal vendetta against me and release the damn DVD in England!
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Old August 3 2009, 02:13 PM   #43
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It's about publication rights, I suppose. It must've been hard enough just to pull together the US publication rights from all those different publishers.
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Old August 3 2009, 03:39 PM   #44
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It's ironic these classic comics should come up now. Over the weekend, I was going through some old folders on my hard drive, and there was an outline for an SCE story with Nancy Bryce and Liz Sherwood that I worked on for a long time. The outline is horrifically long -- even in its unfinished state, it's thirty pages -- but it was very much a labor of love, and certainly a valentine, to these characters who so were formative in my Star Trek experience.
So Pocket writers are free to use characters created for comics or games by other companies with the Trek license?
Technically, since it's all owned by Paramount, then yes, characters can be used. In this particular case, I asked Bob Greenberger if he had any objections if I used Nancy Bryce and Liz Sherwood for this story. As long as I didn't do anything to them that annoyed Peter David, he said, we'd be golden.

It had some other comic book characters, too, like Grand Admiral Steven Turner and Vice Admiral Rittenhouse. Lyndra Dean, the reporter from The Mirror Universe Saga plays a key role. And Kaaj, from the Star Trek: Early Voyages comic was one of the story's key characters.

Just out of curiosity, any chance your outline could be reworked for a short story or novel, or do you think the plot is doomed never to see the light of day?
I don't think it will ever see the light of day. It's so engrained in one particular moment of Star Trek history that it wouldn't work elsewhere, with other characters. And there's no market for it now. Its time has passed.

All I will say about it is that it made the engineering in Ring Around the Sky look small. We're talking starships on unpowered ballistic trajectories, suited engineers with magnaboots attached to hulls with jerry-rigged harpoon guns, and Starfleet's wildest towing job.

It's possible that the backstory I created for Liz Sherwood, to reconcile her FYM appearance in Gemini with her movie-era appearance in the comics, may turn up in something else that's not Star Trek-related, because it was a neat idea. Dark, but also neat.

This is bringing back memories. Wasn't Rittenhouse originally introduced in Dreadnought and Battlestations? Reading this thread has me very tempted to go back and read those stories again. Loved them.
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Old August 3 2009, 03:46 PM   #45
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Rittenhouse was in Dreadnought, yes, and he was referenced in Battlestations and The Lost Years (in which Nogura's reason for promoting Kirk to the admiralty was to improve Starfleet's press image after the Rittenhouse scandal). I don't recall him ever appearing or being mentioned in the comics, though, since the DC comics were set more than a decade after his downfall would've occurred.
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