"We won't reach minumum safe distance if we don't leave immediately."

diftorhehsmusma · July 30 2009, 08:18 PM

just about every aspect of this film has been nit-picked around here (funfun!) but this is something that bothered me the first time i saw it and every subsequent viewing: the girl on the bridge who, during the scene where vulcan is imploded, says the above line, then they continue to hang around for several more minutes. long enough, if memory serves, for kirk and sulu to be beamed back aboard and spock to go down to rescue his parents and return.
what is this? bad editing? bad writing? and anyway, most people understand on some level that this would be the case. why was this line even in there? seems like a cheap attempt to elevate the tension where this wasn't really necessary.

Mr. B · July 30 2009, 08:24 PM

Bad writing... from the tag team that brought you "Oh, no! The machine is buried in the pyramid! If they turn it on, it will destroy the sun!"

Psion · July 30 2009, 08:46 PM

Mr. B wrote:

Bad writing... from the tag team that brought you "Oh, no! The machine is buried in the pyramid! If they turn it on, it will destroy the sun!"

Huh?! What the blazes is that from?

Mr. B · July 30 2009, 08:51 PM

Transformers 2

Psion · July 30 2009, 08:55 PM

Mr. B wrote:

Transformers 2

[shakes head and rubs forehead in disbelief]

Alright, they're dumb as posts, but there's no denying that these writers put fannies in the seats.

davejames · July 30 2009, 09:11 PM

Eh, all the Treks do that kind of thing to raise the tension. I mean, everytime there's a battle scene, we hear the same exact refrains again and again: "Shields down to 20%!!!" or "Divert all power to the shields!!!" or "We can't take another hit like that!!!" etc.

It all certainly SOUNDS cool, but nothing really ever comes of it. It's just for effect.

number6 · July 30 2009, 10:14 PM

It was there to heighten the tension just like every Star Trek that came before it.

This constant drum beating to find something to complain about is getting old and stupid.

KingstonTrekker · July 30 2009, 10:17 PM

[This constant drum beating to find something to complain about is getting old and stupid.[/QUOTE]

Agreed!

MvRojo · July 30 2009, 10:41 PM

Mr. B wrote:

Bad writing... from the tag team that brought you "Oh, no! The machine is buried in the pyramid! If they turn it on, it will destroy the sun!"

Ugh. Don't remind me.

Devon · July 31 2009, 01:21 AM

diftorhehsmusma wrote:

then they continue to hang around for several more minutes. long enough, if memory serves, for kirk and sulu to be beamed back aboard and spock to go down to rescue his parents and return.
what is this? bad editing? bad writing?

It's a non-issue. What precludes them from having reached a minimal safe distance during that time?

number6 wrote:

This constant drum beating to find something to complain about is getting old and stupid.

Agreed.

diftorhehsmusma · July 31 2009, 01:40 AM

ok, fine. i was just trying to have some fun. i see your point, but if you aren't interested in bits like this, just ignore them. no need to get testy.

Mr. Adventure · July 31 2009, 02:01 AM

The line made me smile though because it made me think of Aliens.

http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip...ns/Aliens.html
Actually, I see on that website they had the "Punch it" line in there as well...

urbandk · July 31 2009, 02:14 AM

Same old Star Trek science. Whatever. Besides, a black hole with the mass of a planet would have the gravitational pull of that planet. They wouldn't have to adjust their orbit at all.

diftorhehsmusma · July 31 2009, 02:20 AM

so it's just a stupid line? <sigh> i guess i can live with that. in a film that's neat but already far from perfect, i guess it's just one more goofy thing. but for some reason it bothers me more than just about anything else. huge coincidences? ok. iffy, double-faced science? fine; after all, it is science fiction. but this bit is just unnecessarily stupid. in future i shall do my best to just ignore it.

SonicRanger · July 31 2009, 02:31 AM

Who's to say that the Enterprise didn't back off a bit to a safe distance after that line was spoken? Why do people need to see everything in exacting detail? Would you only think the Enterprise moved away a bit if we heard the "beep, beep, beep" of it backing up?

July 30 2009, 08:18 PM	#1
diftorhehsmusma Lieutenant Commander Location: Ohio, USA	"We won't reach minumum safe distance if we don't leave immediately." just about every aspect of this film has been nit-picked around here (funfun!) but this is something that bothered me the first time i saw it and every subsequent viewing: the girl on the bridge who, during the scene where vulcan is imploded, says the above line, then they continue to hang around for several more minutes. long enough, if memory serves, for kirk and sulu to be beamed back aboard and spock to go down to rescue his parents and return. what is this? bad editing? bad writing? and anyway, most people understand on some level that this would be the case. why was this line even in there? seems like a cheap attempt to elevate the tension where this wasn't really necessary.

July 30 2009, 08:24 PM	#2
Mr. B Vice Admiral Location: New Orleans	Re: "We won't reach minumum safe distance if we don't leave immediatel Bad writing... from the tag team that brought you "Oh, no! The machine is buried in the pyramid! If they turn it on, it will destroy the sun!" __________________ “Ridicule is the tribute paid to the genius by the mediocrities.” -Oscar Wilde

July 30 2009, 08:51 PM	#4
Mr. B Vice Admiral Location: New Orleans	Re: "We won't reach minumum safe distance if we don't leave immediatel Transformers 2 __________________ “Ridicule is the tribute paid to the genius by the mediocrities.” -Oscar Wilde

July 30 2009, 09:11 PM	#6
davejames Vice Admiral Location: Sac, Ca	Re: "We won't reach minumum safe distance if we don't leave immediatel Eh, all the Treks do that kind of thing to raise the tension. I mean, everytime there's a battle scene, we hear the same exact refrains again and again: "Shields down to 20%!!!" or "Divert all power to the shields!!!" or "We can't take another hit like that!!!" etc. It all certainly SOUNDS cool, but nothing really ever comes of it. It's just for effect.

July 30 2009, 10:14 PM	#7
number6 Vice Admiral Location: number6 has left the village through some inexpicable hole in the ground to head the corporation.	Re: "We won't reach minumum safe distance if we don't leave immediatel It was there to heighten the tension just like every Star Trek that came before it. This constant drum beating to find something to complain about is getting old and stupid.

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July 30 2009, 10:17 PM	#8
KingstonTrekker Commander Location: Kingston, Ontario, Canada	Re: "We won't reach minumum safe distance if we don't leave immediatel [This constant drum beating to find something to complain about is getting old and stupid.[/QUOTE] Agreed!

July 31 2009, 01:40 AM	#11
diftorhehsmusma Lieutenant Commander Location: Ohio, USA	Re: "We won't reach minumum safe distance if we don't leave immediatel ok, fine. i was just trying to have some fun. i see your point, but if you aren't interested in bits like this, just ignore them. no need to get testy.

July 31 2009, 02:01 AM	#12
Mr. Adventure Admiral Location: Mr. Adventure	Re: "We won't reach minumum safe distance if we don't leave immediatel The line made me smile though because it made me think of Aliens. http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip...ns/Aliens.html Actually, I see on that website they had the "Punch it" line in there as well...

July 31 2009, 02:14 AM	#13
urbandk Commodore Location: the European "canon" is here	Re: "We won't reach minumum safe distance if we don't leave immediatel Same old Star Trek science. Whatever. Besides, a black hole with the mass of a planet would have the gravitational pull of that planet. They wouldn't have to adjust their orbit at all. __________________

July 31 2009, 02:20 AM	#14
diftorhehsmusma Lieutenant Commander Location: Ohio, USA	Re: "We won't reach minumum safe distance if we don't leave immediatel so it's just a stupid line? <sigh> i guess i can live with that. in a film that's neat but already far from perfect, i guess it's just one more goofy thing. but for some reason it bothers me more than just about anything else. huge coincidences? ok. iffy, double-faced science? fine; after all, it is science fiction. but this bit is just unnecessarily stupid. in future i shall do my best to just ignore it.

July 31 2009, 02:31 AM	#15
SonicRanger Rear Admiral Location: Sheffield, England	Re: "We won't reach minumum safe distance if we don't leave immediatel Who's to say that the Enterprise didn't back off a bit to a safe distance after that line was spoken? Why do people need to see everything in exacting detail? Would you only think the Enterprise moved away a bit if we heard the "beep, beep, beep" of it backing up? __________________ "STAR TREK is... Action - Adventure - Science Fiction." -- Gene Roddenberry, 1964, top of the first page of his original pitch and outline for Star Trek