TOS' U.S.S. Valiant and Farragut....

Warped9 · July 14 2009, 07:14 PM

Here are a couple of new things for my chronology that I thought folks in this forum might like.

The first image is my take on the Valiant that's lost at Eminiar 7 in "A Taste Of Armeggedon." The second image is a work-in-progress of my idea of the Farragut referenced in "Obsession." There's about forty years between the two events and I wanted to show some idea of evolution in design from the Valiant to the Farragut to the Enterprise.

The Farragut design has something of that TOS look I think while still not being a reuse of the familiar design. The ship is supposed to be about 3/4 of the size of a Constitution-class.

For the Farragut I still have to add extra detail: surface detail, windows, running lights, markings, whatever else I can think of. I elected to go with a new design extrapolated from an early MJ sketch rather than use the Surya type frigate which had been my initial idea.

Both ships are completely rendered in Photoshop.

judge alba · July 14 2009, 07:46 PM

very nice i like them a lot

Kelso · July 14 2009, 08:06 PM

I like those. They actually look pre-TOS.

B.J. · July 14 2009, 08:41 PM

Nicely done artwork! I just wish they weren't so fuzzy, but I can understand you wanting them to fit into the look of the original broadcast.

I like the antennas sticking out on the Valiant! I didn't notice that the first couple of times looking at it.

Santaman · July 14 2009, 08:45 PM

Nice designs.

Patrickivan · July 14 2009, 11:02 PM

Very nice. I like the Valiant's saucer and nacelle connection sections. It reminds me of the Oberth type, and I can see how that design could lead in to it. The deflector array seems a little bulky- I'd taper it a little smaller as it protrudes from the ship.

That Farragut seems too much like the Valiant (with regards to the nacelles coming out of the aft section of the upper neck)- but I do see where you're coming from with the design, and certainly where you're going. Once the detail is in, I think I'll like this ship more...

Good Stuff!

Soar_Dude · July 15 2009, 01:51 AM

I thougt the Valiant was lost at the Galactic barrier?

Skywalker · July 15 2009, 01:57 AM

I like the shot of Lieutenant Kirk. Where did you get that image of Shatner?

Vance · July 15 2009, 02:00 AM

Soar_Dude wrote:

I thougt the Valiant was lost at the Galactic barrier?

Well, maybe when the crewman got super-ESP powers he got smart enough to ask for a map?

StarCruiser · July 15 2009, 04:10 AM

The name was used twice in TOS - in 'Where No Man...' and 'A Taste of Armaggedon'. There's nothing wrong with that since the later could have been named after the former - separated by ~150 years.

BolianAuthor · July 15 2009, 05:47 AM

Not bad! I like the old film look, like it's an actual TOS screencap.

Shaw · July 15 2009, 06:41 AM

I like the Farragut... it is different while still feeling very familiar.

Have you sketched out any other views of it?

TheLoneRedshirt · July 15 2009, 03:08 PM

I really like the Valiant! The Farragut seems to need a bit more detail, though I do like the overall design.

As to the photo of Lt. Kirk, let me guess - did you take a screen shot from Shatner's "Twilight Zone" appearance and photoshop his head onto Christopher Pike's body?

Mr. Laser Beam · July 15 2009, 04:34 PM

StarCruiser wrote:

The name was used twice in TOS - in 'Where No Man...' and 'A Taste of Armaggedon'. There's nothing wrong with that since the later could have been named after the former - separated by ~150 years.

In fact the name Valiant seems to have a curse on it, as almost every ship Trek has ever had with that name, has met some untimely end:

- SS Valiant, destroyed at galactic barrier

- First USS Valiant (TOS), lost at Eminiar/Vendikar

- Second USS Valiant (DS9), idiot Red Squad cadet ship that got blown up

Professor Moriarty · July 15 2009, 05:58 PM

Yeah, it's like that dumbass habit of Starfleet naming expensive starships Enterprise. How many o' them suckers has met with a tragic demise?!

July 14 2009, 07:14 PM	#1
Warped9 Admiral Location: Brockville, Ontario, Canada	TOS' U.S.S. Valiant and Farragut.... Here are a couple of new things for my chronology that I thought folks in this forum might like. The first image is my take on the Valiant that's lost at Eminiar 7 in "A Taste Of Armeggedon." The second image is a work-in-progress of my idea of the Farragut referenced in "Obsession." There's about forty years between the two events and I wanted to show some idea of evolution in design from the Valiant to the Farragut to the Enterprise. The Farragut design has something of that TOS look I think while still not being a reuse of the familiar design. The ship is supposed to be about 3/4 of the size of a Constitution-class. For the Farragut I still have to add extra detail: surface detail, windows, running lights, markings, whatever else I can think of. I elected to go with a new design extrapolated from an early MJ sketch rather than use the Surya type frigate which had been my initial idea. Both ships are completely rendered in Photoshop. __________________ *STAR TREK:* 1964-1991

July 14 2009, 07:46 PM	#2
judge alba senior street judge Location: judge alba	Re: TOS' U.S.S. Valiant and Farragut.... very nice i like them a lot __________________ Swift as the wind. Gentle as a forest. Fierce as fire. Firm as a mountain. Strike as powerful as thunder.

July 14 2009, 08:06 PM	#3
Kelso Vice Admiral Location: On the destruct button until the last minute!	Re: TOS' U.S.S. Valiant and Farragut.... I like those. They actually look pre-TOS. __________________ "Murder on Tuesday"! The all-new comic strip from Kail Tescar's startrekanimated.com My Puppet Building Blog!

July 14 2009, 08:41 PM	#4
B.J. Commodore Location: Huntsville, AL, USA	Re: TOS' U.S.S. Valiant and Farragut.... Nicely done artwork! I just wish they weren't so fuzzy, but I can understand you wanting them to fit into the look of the original broadcast. I like the antennas sticking out on the Valiant! I didn't notice that the first couple of times looking at it. __________________ B.J. --- bj-o23.deviantart.com

July 14 2009, 08:45 PM	#5
Santaman Rear Admiral Location: A little while in the past.	Re: TOS' U.S.S. Valiant and Farragut.... Nice designs. __________________ "Sword is personal, brings slicing to a man, you getta that personal feedback, nuclear weapons?.. Meh, goes off big bang and you don't get any feeling.."

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July 14 2009, 11:02 PM	#6
Patrickivan Fleet Captain Location: Ontario, Canada	Re: TOS' U.S.S. Valiant and Farragut.... Very nice. I like the Valiant's saucer and nacelle connection sections. It reminds me of the Oberth type, and I can see how that design could lead in to it. The deflector array seems a little bulky- I'd taper it a little smaller as it protrudes from the ship. That Farragut seems too much like the Valiant (with regards to the nacelles coming out of the aft section of the upper neck)- but I do see where you're coming from with the design, and certainly where you're going. Once the detail is in, I think I'll like this ship more... Good Stuff! __________________ http://patrickivan.wordpress.com/page/2/ "Perception isn't Reality. Perception is our interpretation of Reality. And Reality remains, despite perception." Me

July 15 2009, 01:51 AM	#7
Soar_Dude Lieutenant Commander	Re: TOS' U.S.S. Valiant and Farragut.... I thougt the Valiant was lost at the Galactic barrier?

July 15 2009, 01:57 AM	#8
Skywalker Admiral	Re: TOS' U.S.S. Valiant and Farragut.... I like the shot of Lieutenant Kirk. Where did you get that image of Shatner?

July 15 2009, 04:10 AM	#10
StarCruiser Commander Location: Houston, we have a problem...	Re: TOS' U.S.S. Valiant and Farragut.... The name was used twice in TOS - in 'Where No Man...' and 'A Taste of Armaggedon'. There's nothing wrong with that since the later could have been named after the former - separated by ~150 years. __________________ "I've always said you can get more with a kind word and a two-by-four than you can with just a kind word." - Marcus Cole, Babylon 5

July 15 2009, 05:47 AM	#11
BolianAuthor Writer, Battlestar Urantia Location: Torrance, California	Re: TOS' U.S.S. Valiant and Farragut.... Not bad! I like the old film look, like it's an actual TOS screencap.

July 15 2009, 06:41 AM	#12
Shaw Commodore Location: Twin Cities	Re: TOS' U.S.S. Valiant and Farragut.... I like the Farragut... it is different while still feeling very familiar. Have you sketched out any other views of it?

July 15 2009, 03:08 PM	#13
TheLoneRedshirt Commodore	Re: TOS' U.S.S. Valiant and Farragut.... I really like the Valiant! The Farragut seems to need a bit more detail, though I do like the overall design. As to the photo of Lt. Kirk, let me guess - did you take a screen shot from Shatner's "Twilight Zone" appearance and photoshop his head onto Christopher Pike's body? __________________ I'm not dead; I'm just pining for the Fjords.

July 15 2009, 05:58 PM	#15
Professor Moriarty Vice Admiral Location: Drifting in interspace	Re: TOS' U.S.S. Valiant and Farragut.... Yeah, it's like that dumbass habit of Starfleet naming expensive starships Enterprise. How many o' them suckers has met with a tragic demise?!