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Old July 4 2009, 09:43 PM   #76
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Re: 2009 Fall Book Preview With Covers

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Why is this ENT book any different by being a trade instead of a Mass?
Maybe Pocket wanted to give it a higher profile by going for a more expensive format?
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Old July 4 2009, 10:16 PM   #77
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Margaret described her cover philosophy at Shore Leave last year thusly: For her books, she wants covers that don't obviously look like Star Trek covers, that someone can read on the New York subway and not be embarassed by.
If that is true then she needs to re-think what is embarrasing. I think all but the Vangaurd book would be embarrasing for me to carry on the subway! In fact the word ashamed comes to mind.

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Well, TSK is pretty blue swirly with a semi-transparent hand. It doesn't scream ST... you couldn't tell from that (other then ST on the cover) that it is ST...
I'm not sure about the cover myself, cuz I thought the temp one was cool.

Still, if someone ran their mouth over what I was reading on a subway (impossible, there are none here) they'd be told in short order to mind their business... etc.
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Old July 4 2009, 10:54 PM   #78
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Re: 2009 Fall Book Preview With Covers

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Why is this ENT book any different by being a trade instead of a Mass?
It was originally announced as several MMPBs, IIRC, then switched to a trade, so it should be nice and hefty. Trade paperbacks are the new, trendy, more economical hardcover analogs, aimed at a slightly different market (eg. for gift-giving?).

Pocket Books has dropped the idea of any ST hardcovers for the time being, so books that might have once been hardcovers, such as "Treason", the JJ movie novelization, and "The Romulan War", come out has higher-profile trades instead.

Doing the odd trade means they can come out in addition to the one-MMPB-per-month schedule.

Marco once explained that the royalty on hardcovers (and trades?) was higher, so it's like a little bonus reward to the authors to have their book selected to come out as a larger format book. Plus, the hardcovers have always been reprinted in MMPB, and that gives the author two bites at the royalty cherry. (We don't know yet if the current batch of trades will end up in MMPB, though.)
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Old July 4 2009, 10:58 PM   #79
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Why is this ENT book any different by being a trade instead of a Mass?
It was originally announced as several MMPBs, IIRC, then switched to a trade, so it should be nice and hefty. Trade paperbacks are the new, trendy, more economical hardcover analogs, aimed at a slightly different market (eg. for gift-giving?).

Pocket Books has dropped the idea of any ST hardcovers for the time being, so books that might have once been hardcovers, such as "Treason", the JJ movie novelization, and "The Romulan War", come out has higher-profile trades instead.

Doing the odd trade means they can come out in addition to the one-MMPB-per-month schedule.

Marco once explained that the royalty on hardcovers (and trades?) was higher, so it's like a little bonus reward to the authors to have their book selected t come out as a larger format book. Plus, the hardcovers have always been reprinted in MMPB, and that gives the author two bites at the royalty cherry. (We don't know yet if the current batch of trades will end up in MMPB, though.)
Thank you, Therin. You're very informative. I suppose given how high-profile the Romulan War is, we should have expected a book finally dealing with to be more than your average mass-market.
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Old July 4 2009, 11:12 PM   #80
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Pffft, that's no fun!

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Ask and you shall receive (maybe).

I think it's by Sparth (Nicolas Bouvier)

http://www.sparth.com/biography.htm
That sure looks like the style!!! As if the bio didn't already confirm it...it sure looks like it.

I may e-mail the guy tomorrow and see if he'll sell prints.
Let me know how it goes.
Hope it works out for you.

I'd like to find out if the TofF or Mission Gamma cover (put together) is available... *goes off to look*
If you find that, lemme know!

I'll be sending my e-mail out this evening.
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Old July 4 2009, 11:15 PM   #81
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^ Ooh, new avatar! Nice!
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I felt like it was a much-needed message this Fourth of July.

Plus...I couldn't resist having a Cardassian say "DONT TREAD ON ME"!!!

(Edited to add: Yes, I know I left out the apostrophe. Google "Gadsden Flag" and you'll see why.)
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Old July 4 2009, 11:18 PM   #83
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Re: 2009 Fall Book Preview With Covers

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I felt like it was a much-needed message this Fourth of July.
Not wanting to derail this thread even more, could you explain what you mean by this?
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"Don't Tread on Me" was a phrase that appeared on one of the very first flags used by the American colonists during the Revolutionary War. It is also gaining a lot of use again in modern day as a conservative/libertarian protest symbol. Here is a link to the history of the Gadsden Flag, with an image...which will also give you an idea why I would associate the phrase with a Cardassian.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gadsden_Flag
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"Don't Tread on Me" was a phrase that appeared on one of the very first flags used by the American colonists during the Revolutionary War. It is also gaining a lot of use again in modern day as a conservative/libertarian protest symbol. Here is a link to the history of the Gadsden Flag, with an image...which will also give you an idea why I would associate the phrase with a Cardassian.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gadsden_Flag
Appropriate. By the way, I suppose now's a good time to say, to all you Americans posting here, happy Independence Day!
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"Don't Tread on Me" was a phrase that appeared on one of the very first flags used by the American colonists during the Revolutionary War. It is also gaining a lot of use again in modern day as a conservative/libertarian protest symbol. Here is a link to the history of the Gadsden Flag, with an image...which will also give you an idea why I would associate the phrase with a Cardassian.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gadsden_Flag
Appropriate. By the way, I suppose now's a good time to say, to all you Americans posting here, happy Independence Day!
And to quote a certain King, nothing important happened today.
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And to quote a certain King, nothing important happened today.
Obviously that King did not realize that Horatio Hornblower had been born that morning.
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And to quote a certain King, nothing important happened today.
Obviously that King did not realize that Horatio Hornblower had been born that morning.


Kinda on topic, Cliff Nielsen did the Avatar and MG covers, as well as the one for the new Titan book (Titan? The one with the water planet) and the Troublesome minds one, according to the official mgmt site. Cool...
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OK...I just e-mailed Sparth to see if he'll provide any info on print sales. I'll let you guys know if I get anything!
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And to quote a certain King, nothing important happened today.
Obviously that King did not realize that Horatio Hornblower had been born that morning.


Kinda on topic, Cliff Nielsen did the Avatar and MG covers, as well as the one for the new Titan book (Titan? The one with the water planet) and the Troublesome minds one, according to the official mgmt site. Cool...
Nielsen's stuff is awsome. When I found out that (some) MB pages listed the cover artists, I discovered that alot of my favorites were by Nielsen.
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