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Old July 1 2009, 09:44 PM   #1
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NuTrek lit?

With the smash success the new film has proven to be, I am surprised that there isn't news of novels and comics based off of it.

Has anyone heard anything?

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Old July 1 2009, 09:46 PM   #2
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With the smash success the new film has proven to be, I am surprised that there isn't news of novels and comics based off of it.
There are comics. Spock Reflections is another movie prequel, while Nero fills in Nero's missing 25 years after the destruction of the Kelvin.

I expect that there will be novels set in the film's continuity. It's possible that Pocket might have something announce at Shore Leave next week. But I wouldn't really expect to see any until the latter half of 2010 at the earliest.
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Old July 2 2009, 04:02 AM   #3
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^ I agree. After all, it generally takes a while, as far as I know, for Trek books to make the journey from initial proposal to publication. And...assuming any writers have proposed anything NuTrek-wise around now, and calculating the amount of time the typical writing process takes--and then the publishing process....

I'm guessing...2011.
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Old July 2 2009, 04:17 AM   #4
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With the smash success the new film has proven to be, I am surprised that there isn't news of novels and comics based off of it.

Has anyone heard anything?

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There must be audiobooks.
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Old July 2 2009, 04:21 AM   #5
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^ I agree. After all, it generally takes a while, as far as I know, for Trek books to make the journey from initial proposal to publication. And...assuming any writers have proposed anything NuTrek-wise around now, and calculating the amount of time the typical writing process takes--and then the publishing process....

I'm guessing...2011.
Why assume the proposals would have waited until now? The movie's been out nearly two months. And the writing and publishing process generally takes more like a year. Sometimes more, but the start of 2011 is fully 18 months away, and novels usually don't take quite that long.
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Old July 2 2009, 04:50 AM   #6
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Re: NuTrek lit?

Why assume the proposals would have waited until now? The movie's been out nearly two months. And the writing and publishing process generally takes more like a year. Sometimes more, but the start of 2011 is fully 18 months away, and novels usually don't take quite that long.
Ah. As ye say, lad.

I was giving a...shall we say...conservative estimate?

But that's certainly good to know, that it doesn't take that long. Sweet!

Here's to 2010, then!
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Old July 2 2009, 07:03 AM   #7
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I'm hoping for some solid nuTrek lit, I won't lie. That would be extremely exciting.
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Old July 2 2009, 03:17 PM   #8
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Me too. The only problem with them is that they'd probably be back to planet of the week type stories, although it could be kinda fun to get smaller single missions between all of the big stories that the movies will probably do.
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Me too. The only problem with them is that they'd probably be back to planet of the week type stories, although it could be kinda fun to get smaller single missions between all of the big stories that the movies will probably do.
What's wrong with "planet of the week" stories? That's Star Trek's bread-and-butter.

Personally, I'd like to see more of that -- in both the 23rd-century and the 24th-century. If anthologies sold better, that would be the ideal format. Imagine a book called something like Star Trek: 2381 that told the smaller-scale, episode-like stories in the post-Destiny timeframe, using characters from all the series. Here's a Titan story, here's an Enterprise story, here's an Aventine story. Let the novels do the big, epic, earth-shattering. movie-scale stuff, and if you want to dip your toes in for a day-in-the-life, boldly-going type story, then the anthology is your bag.

That's what I'd do. We've had big and bold and epic for so long, something smaller scale would be a nice change of pace.
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Old July 2 2009, 07:07 PM   #10
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Personally, I'd like to see more of that -- in both the 23rd-century and the 24th-century. If anthologies sold better, that would be the ideal format. Imagine a book called something like Star Trek: 2381 that told the smaller-scale, episode-like stories in the post-Destiny timeframe, using characters from all the series. Here's a Titan story, here's an Enterprise story, here's an Aventine story. Let the novels do the big, epic, earth-shattering. movie-scale stuff, and if you want to dip your toes in for a day-in-the-life, boldly-going type story, then the anthology is your bag.
I find this idea intriguing...
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Old July 3 2009, 01:57 AM   #11
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Me too. The only problem with them is that they'd probably be back to planet of the week type stories, although it could be kinda fun to get smaller single missions between all of the big stories that the movies will probably do.
What's wrong with "planet of the week" stories? That's Star Trek's bread-and-butter.
Actually nothing. When I switched over to "although it could be kinda fun" I was changing my mind mid post. I just didn't feel like erasing the other part.
Personally, I'd like to see more of that -- in both the 23rd-century and the 24th-century. If anthologies sold better, that would be the ideal format. Imagine a book called something like Star Trek: 2381 that told the smaller-scale, episode-like stories in the post-Destiny timeframe, using characters from all the series. Here's a Titan story, here's an Enterprise story, here's an Aventine story. Let the novels do the big, epic, earth-shattering. movie-scale stuff, and if you want to dip your toes in for a day-in-the-life, boldly-going type story, then the anthology is your bag.

That's what I'd do. We've had big and bold and epic for so long, something smaller scale would be a nice change of pace.
That would be really fun.
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Old July 3 2009, 03:15 AM   #12
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Re: NuTrek lit?

If anthologies sold better, that would be the ideal format. Imagine a book called something like Star Trek: 2381 that told the smaller-scale, episode-like stories in the post-Destiny timeframe, using characters from all the series. Here's a Titan story, here's an Enterprise story, here's an Aventine story. Let the novels do the big, epic, earth-shattering. movie-scale stuff, and if you want to dip your toes in for a day-in-the-life, boldly-going type story, then the anthology is your bag.
YES!!!

Hey, while we're at it, why not make it open to all, like SNW?

Would be a nice opportunity to open a door for the aspiring folks, who wanna start their writing careers with Trek....

Such as...moi?


That's what I'd do. We've had big and bold and epic for so long, something smaller scale would be a nice change of pace.
No arguments here. When I first got into the novels, you don't know HOW MANY TIMES I picked up DS9 relaunch books and New Frontier books while having NO KNOWLEDGE WHATSOEVER of the beginnings of the arcs....

And those beginnings were long since out of print. I had to scour the library for the first New Frontier books--and scour the used bookstores for Avatar 1 and 2. *sigh*

Yeah. A few TRUE stand-alones would be nice....
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Old July 3 2009, 03:30 AM   #13
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Re: NuTrek lit?

Alan Dean Foster has a sequel book to Star Trek in the works, as I understand it.

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Old July 3 2009, 03:50 AM   #14
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^Ha! I like the reason for your last edit.
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Alan Dean Foster has a sequel book to Star Trek in the works, as I understand it.
As is being discussed in this thread...

http://www.trekbbs.com/showthread.php?t=97855
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Old July 3 2009, 03:57 AM   #15
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YES!!!

Hey, while we're at it, why not make it open to all, like SNW?

Would be a nice opportunity to open a door for the aspiring folks, who wanna start their writing careers with Trek....
SNW wasn't a particularly ideal model. It lost money and it was complex and difficult to make it happen. Also it was a contest, so it had restrictions that prohibited authors outside the US from contributing, so it wasn't really "open to all."

The basic submission process for Trek novels already is open to all, and I'm fairly certain you've had that explained to you before on this very forum. As for the Trek anthologies, they're generally by editorial invitation like most anthologies, but they've occasionally included first-time authors who managed to get the editors' attention.

And if you really want to start a writing career, then you shouldn't try to start it with Trek. You're better off trying to sell original fiction. If a Trek proposal gets rejected by Pocket, you can't do anything else with it (unless you can rework it into a comic book and get IDW or TokyoPop interested). But with an original story, you can just submit it to a different market and keep on trying. So your chances are better. Also, the broader your portfolio, the better it'll be for your career.
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