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Old June 23 2009, 02:37 AM   #31
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Re: Official Blurb for The Soul Key

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I'm still about confused about how Jadzia pronounced Virak'kara's name. Then again, it was in the middle of a battle.
Yeah, purely by looking at it, that one seems to buck the trend - i would imagine it as Veer-ak-KAR-ah. <snip>

I always liked the name Ikat'Ika myself. Just sounds cool.
And I think that may have been what she said, but she kinda trailed off at the end?

I liked Ikat'ika and Remata'klan, the latter cuz it seems like something you'd just brush off, not realizing how much trouble you'd be in.

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Onscreen, Jem'Hadar names were generally iambic, with the main stress on the second syllable and a secondary stress on the fourth syllable. I assume Taran'atar's name would be the same.
Did you find it sometimes depended on who was talking? Or was I just not paying attention. it was more/less subtle?

It seemed like Worf used more stress, and Weyoun (and Bashir) barely stressed at all...<snip>
Weyoun has such a silky voice normally, and lower and faster when he's angry, I don't believe he stresses much of anything. Bashir tends to pronounce non-human names differently, anyway: Quark, for instance. I suppose Worf would use more stresses, being a Klingon warrior with a forceful approach to most of life's problems. I don't remember how Jadzia pronounced Virak'kara. I haven't watched my DS9 in far too long.

Hmmm, speaking of Jadzia, I'm reminded that in the episode "Equilibrium", the Trill doctor Renhol pronounced Jadzia with a stress on the first syllable, and the name was much more compact. I've always liked to think that this is the true pronounciation (seeing as it was a Trill on planet Trill using it), and the "normal" way of pronouncing it is how Standard renders the name. Maybe Jem'Hadar names come through different translators differently? This might be why the stresses are different on occasion. Does this make sense, or is it random babbling?
No, you make sense, especially considering what we have to work with- alien names, actors with different accents etc. And yeah, who knows what the Translators do?

Good catch with Worf and Bashir! Ahh... Bashir saying Quark.
I'd think that given Weyoun's long history with the Jem'hadar, he should be able to pronounce them properly, but that might be putting too much mental power into a being that didn't care, by a condecending person.

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I'm still about confused about how Jadzia pronounced Virak'kara's name. Then again, it was in the middle of a battle.
I would expect it to be iambic, as every other Jem'Hadar name I know was. So Virak'kara.

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If it were, say, a Japanese name, then it would be pronounced pretty much according to the usual iambic pattern of a J'H name, Temozuma. (Whenever you see a U in a Japanese word, you can assume it's unstressed to the point of virtual nonexistence.) And I recall a special on Native American history in which the name of Mohtecuhzoma (the Aztec ruler generally known as Montezuma) was accented similarly in the narration, with the stresses on the second and final syllables. Not every language uses the rhythms and emphases we'd expect in English.
Thanks, that makes sense. It was always the trickiest for me.

And thanks for posting the Japanese/Aztec history- it's neat!
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Old June 23 2009, 10:40 PM   #32
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^ I was going to post and say USS Montezuma would be a cool name for a ship. Apparantly, there have been a few.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Montezuma
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Old July 1 2009, 02:59 PM   #33
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Now, Amazon lists this book for release on July 25th I think. Now, is a date that specific usually accurate?

Am I excited for this and TN-ES? (LOL!)

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Old July 1 2009, 03:02 PM   #34
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That is very hypnotic and with this heat, I may fall sleep watching this.
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Old July 1 2009, 03:31 PM   #35
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That kid is just too creepy for words.
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Old July 1 2009, 04:56 PM   #36
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^ For the record, I don't look like that. At all.

It is being used solely to express my excitement.

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That is very hypnotic and with this heat, I may fall sleep watching this.
Haha!! Get your rest so you can read SK & TN-ES without stopping... except between them... umm... okay, maybe one at a time...

Wait a minute! You're in England! What are you calling "heat" atm?
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Old July 1 2009, 05:34 PM   #37
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^ For the record, I don't look like that. At all.

It is being used solely to express my excitement.

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That is very hypnotic and with this heat, I may fall sleep watching this.
Haha!! Get your rest so you can read SK & TN-ES without stopping... except between them... umm... okay, maybe one at a time...

Wait a minute! You're in England! What are you calling "heat" atm?
well my vista weather gadget is saying that it's 28 degrees out. Admittedly this may be cool for some parts of the world, but here in Blighty, it's like hells inferno itself.
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Old July 1 2009, 06:00 PM   #38
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Wow, Marie, what's the deal with that graphic? Not exactly nice... :-/
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Old July 1 2009, 11:59 PM   #39
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^ For the record, I don't look like that. At all.

It is being used solely to express my excitement.

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That is very hypnotic and with this heat, I may fall sleep watching this.
Haha!! Get your rest so you can read SK & TN-ES without stopping... except between them... umm... okay, maybe one at a time...

Wait a minute! You're in England! What are you calling "heat" atm?
well my vista weather gadget is saying that it's 28 degrees out. Admittedly this may be cool for some parts of the world, but here in Blighty, it's like hells inferno itself.
Oooh, that sounds like a nice cool spring day here. According to my weather channel desktop it is now 98F/37C, and a couple days ago it was up to 110F/43C.
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Old July 2 2009, 01:25 AM   #40
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^ According to my dad's car's thermometer... which is sometimes off, it was 19C today. Which is because it hasn't stopped raining since I got back from apparently leaving all the good weather across the pond.

But recently it's been in the 30Cs plus super humid so... blah!

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well my vista weather gadget is saying that it's 28 degrees out. Admittedly this may be cool for some parts of the world, but here in Blighty, it's like hells inferno itself.
Is it humid? If not, it sounds wonderful and I'm coming back over to mooch!!

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Wow, Marie, what's the deal with that graphic? Not exactly nice... :-/
I believe the kid is drumming? Well, air drumming? But when you speed it up like that, it seriously looks like he's as excited as I feel. I kid you not (no pun intended). I stole it- it's an animated bumper sticker from Facebook. One of the least offensive, TBH.


OT- I'm crazy pumped for this book!!!! I'm not totally bent on ending this arc or whatever, but I'm not sorry that it will- I really want to know what's going on after the Dominion Worlds story. But I do what to know what's going to happen in this and TN-ES. A lot. I'm thinking of preordering them, I've never done it...
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Old July 2 2009, 06:30 AM   #41
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I dunno...I just don't like images that poke fun of people for appearance reasons. :-/
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Old July 2 2009, 03:36 PM   #42
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I thought it was more his action- that super energetic drumming that would probably break a drum in RL... but you're probably right... well, obviously, that it could be interpreted that way...
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Old July 2 2009, 11:42 PM   #43
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Amazon UK are listing TSK as being out on September 7th and TNES being out on October 5th. For the UK, they seem a long way off yet.
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Old July 3 2009, 11:53 PM   #44
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^ Yeah, that's not cool. =(

Amazon here says TSK:Jul 28 2009 and TN-ES: Aug 25 2009
I wish Amazon would put up the cover art for TN-ES... for crying out loud.
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