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Old June 25 2009, 10:24 AM   #46
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Re: HELP fellow James Bond fans

Octopussy for me suffers from terminal mediocrity. There's nothing amazing in it to distinguish itself from the pack, but nowhere does it fail so spectacularly as Moonraker or A View To A Kill.
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Old June 25 2009, 07:12 PM   #47
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Re: HELP fellow James Bond fans

Moore dressed as a clown, being jeered at by a bunch of students in a car, who pretend to stop to give him a lift, then drive off on him, is a Bond nadir, IMHO. You just cannot imagine Connery's Bond taking shit like that. Then there's his Barbara Woodhouse 'SIT!' impression to the tiger. For me, Octopussy is one of the worst entries in the 007 canon as a result. Shame, because as has been said, had he quit after FYEO, Moore would have had a good run of Bond movies, with only TMWTGG and Moonraker as duds.
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Old June 25 2009, 08:53 PM   #48
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Never Say Never Again is not part of the Bond canon of movies. It's a stand alone, albeit craptastic, remake of Thunderball, which not only fails to be more faithful to the novel, but pales in light of the real Thunderball. True Bond fans should not speak of it unless chiding someone for speaking of it.
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Old June 26 2009, 07:08 AM   #49
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Re: HELP fellow James Bond fans

I don't really like Thunderball or Never Say Never Again. I think they each have some good and bad, but like Odowan says of Octopussy, nothing standout, either. Really I only really prefer half of the Bond pictures. That's why I'd love to see Craig do an update of Thunderball. I still have hope than he might be able to turn out two more great pictures.

I've been taking an objective look at the Bond Franchise for my reviews blog. Since I'm not done yet, I haven't posted my final list, but as of this moment, here's my top 12

12. A View To A Kill
11. Live and Let Die
10. Casino Royale
9. For Your Eyes Only
8. License to Kill
7. The Living Daylights
6. From Russia With Love
5. The Spy Who Loved Me
4. You Only Live Twice
3. Dr. No
2. Goldfinger
1. Goldeneye

I was so bored the other night, I even made a graph. Tomorrow I may change my list all over again. ;0)

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Old June 26 2009, 05:52 PM   #50
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Oh, I know that Octopussy is incredibly goofy...that's partly why I like it so much.

Also, I kinda like the situation of Bond dressed as a clown trying to convince that Army guy that there is a bomb at the circus. I thought Moore acted that moment pretty well.
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