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Old June 24 2009, 06:27 PM   #91
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Re: Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen - Grading & Discussion

Anyone who has seen the difference between Bad Boys and Bad Boys II should have seen this coming.
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Old June 24 2009, 06:34 PM   #92
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That's a great point. Bad Boys was a pretty decent, funny action movie. Bad Boys II is what watching a rape must feel like.
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Old June 24 2009, 07:11 PM   #93
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You know...I actually enjoyed this movie. Not as much as I wanted to, but it was still good. I am also, by no means, a fan of Transformers. I didnt watch it as a kid or play with the toys. My first experience with it was the 2007 movie.

My biggest complaint was that it was far too long. There were some scenes that coulda just been cut out.

Too many robots. I know this is Transformers and that was this movie is all about but still...too many! Bay got complaints that the first one didnt have enough but now hes gotta deal with the fact that people are complaining that theres too many.

Some of the "jokes" were just...ugh! Way too many unnecessarily perverted jokes.

Overall, I enjoyed it. I'd probably see it at least once more in theaters or just wait for the DVD.

The first was much better.
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Old June 24 2009, 09:16 PM   #94
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So how is John Turturro with Jetfire's voice.
the Jetfire voice actor's great. he's British (says bollocks even), doesn't sound at all like Turturro.
Nevertheless, it was him.

I liked the film, but I did agree it's too long.

And Starscream sounded like a complete pussy. At least in the first film, he sounded vaguely menacing.
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Old June 24 2009, 10:29 PM   #95
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Re: Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen - Grading & Discussion

Me, my brother, little sis and my mom went to see it. All of use loved it. Yes, it's stupid. Yes it has too many characters. Yes the twins could easily have been substituted with Arcee. But I still enjoyed it very much and thought it had some cool stuff.

It is to be noted that I enjoy pretty much every Michael Bay movie except the majority of Pearl Harbor and Bad Boys II.
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Old June 24 2009, 11:46 PM   #96
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Talking to people who have seen this and they weren't impressed! They said there was no story and the robots fighting was incomprehensible, pretty much echoing the critics and people on here.
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Old June 25 2009, 12:25 AM   #97
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I'm disgusted that so many people praised Star Trek and then bash Transformers over the same retarded problems.

Really people? Get over yourselves.
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Old June 25 2009, 01:01 AM   #98
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It reminded me a lot of Pirates 2. Alot of stupid, mindless, meaningless, but extremely gorgeous crap thrown in there to make up for a muddled and shaky script. Twilight is exactly correct though. You're not really sure what is going on, why you should care, or why it is happening. Because you have little to no empathy or relation to the plot or characters, you just don't give a shit. So scenes that should be exciting, are boring because of it. You just get tired of the explosions and just want them to move along with the fucking plot. Which, because it gets dragged down by all this stupid bullshit, moves along at a snails pace.

Micheal Bay must just think he's the King of Comedy. All of his films are full of this stupid, immature brand of comedy. And sometimes it works. Like in Bad Boys 1 or the first Transformers. And it works becuase it doesn't distract from the plot or story, and is secondary to everything else. But then he goes overboard with it, like in this film or Bad Boys 2 where it becomes a central point and it distracts and drags down the film and slows down the plot. I mean, did you really have to show 2 rats fucking like humans in Bad Boys 2? Did I really just pay money to see Devestator's nutsack and the Sector 7 Guy's taint? If I did, then fuck you Micheal Bay. This is Transformers not Bruno you moron.

Sam, Mikela, Mom, and Dad are all parodies of themselves. Sam has shown no growth in character at all from the first film and is still the akward teenager trying to get the girl. Only this time she's already won, so his character arc is pointless. Mikela has become Sam's version of Harley Quinn. She's obsessively clingy and borderline stalkerish. And her whole world seems to revolve around him, as she has no character development of her own to speak of. (Honey, you're 18. You are NOT in love. You're just easily impressed.) Dad still gets the job done I suppose. But I'm convinced now his Dad has a fetish for retards, because no mother is has stupid and naive as his wife is. "Brownies from some nice white boys with dreadlocks.". Where you homeschooled or something Mom? Did you ever go to college? God, could you fall for a bigger cliche?

All the new characters were annoying, stupid, and pointless. Grandpa Autobot and The Roomie especially. The Roomie had no reason to be there. And Gramps obviously is senile becuase he could have just gone with them and teleported them to where they needed to go or just flown them there. And how is an SR-71 old btw?

The Chicken and Watermellon Twins just stole Jar Jar Binks's title as the most annoyingly racist CGI characters ever. The only way they could get more racist is if the RC tripplets were fat and white so Clevon and Sharnell would be in love. Why were cool characters like Ironhide, The RC Tripplets, Sideswipe, and The Doc confined to minor roles and these stupid, insulting characters made to be the stars of the show? I dont' mind un-PC humor at all. But this ain't fucking South Park. And Micheal Bay ain't Trey Parker. No matter how much he wants to be. Who thought this was a good idea? Did they not remember the fallout from Jar Jar? And with Jar Jar, it was just implied. They didn't even try to disguise the racist humor here.

Megatron and Starscream are reduced to the roles of the incompetent hired muscle. The Fallen is cliche, boring and completely underwhelming. Jesus Optimus was a tired concept 20 years ago. And The Army Guys basicly do exactly what they did in the first movie, except in reverse. So I think I about covered everything.

The action was well done though. They got rid of the shakey-cam, which I hated. So every scene is right out there in the open. The Sector 7 Guy is still funny. The tech used by The Decepticons is amazing, but they never do anything remotely cool with it. The Fembot was awesome, and they really should have done more with the Transformers looking like humans thing. Seeing the US Army kick ass is always fun as well.

I really can't recommend this film. It's stupid, pointless, and crude. And this is coming from someone who usually likes those 3 things. It has it's moments here and there I guess. But there's just too much mundane crap that drags the film down for it to be totally enjoyable.
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Old June 25 2009, 01:14 AM   #99
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My review:

Meh. I just couldn't get even wound up enough to have my intelligence insulted (humping dogs and robots...are you serious?)

My son wasn't even as excited after as he was with the first film. (he probably didn't get all the ball sack humour either)

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Old June 25 2009, 01:35 AM   #100
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I'm disgusted that so many people praised Star Trek and then bash Transformers over the same retarded problems.

Really people? Get over yourselves.
Care to elaborate?
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Old June 25 2009, 02:06 AM   #101
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I actually liked this film ... moreso than the first TF film. Feel free to check out my full review, but on the whole, I thought this was a much better crafted film than the original. While no one will mistake TF2 for a really good film, it's nowhere near as bad as the critics make it out to be. It's not as good as Star Trek, but it's easily a better flick than Terminator: Salvation and Wolverine.
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Old June 25 2009, 02:28 AM   #102
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Here's some figures so far (est.) from Box Office Mojo:

Domestic: $16,000,000 39.4%
+ Foreign: $24,600,999 60.6%
= Worldwide: $40,600,999

4,234 theaters
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Old June 25 2009, 02:51 AM   #103
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This movie is going to make a *lot* of money. The 4pm show I went to was PACKED. You don't get that unless there is a heckuva lot of demand to see the film. Longevity might be a concern, but opening numbers should be close to breaking records.
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Old June 25 2009, 04:03 AM   #104
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It was a clusterfuck in the beginning although I actually enjoyed most of it. But God was it long. It was two-and-a-half hours and it felt like three-and-a-half. LEARN HOW TO EDIT A FUCKING MOVIE, MICHAEL BAY! You're not making Lord of the Rings here.

Optimus Prime is still one of the all-time great good guys.
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Old June 25 2009, 04:07 AM   #105
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After the lights came up, two of my friends said they enjoyed it, but they wish they had introduced the characters and I agree. The robots generally just appeared and did a scene and then did little cameos later. Only the "big players" such as The Fallen, Jetfire and Optimus really got good screen time. I think giving the robots a bit more identity would have helped the story immensely.
Yeah, after Prime the Autobots have no strong personalities at all. They're completely leaderless. They really needed Hot Rod to show up or something.

Jetfire was great and the Megatron/Starscream interaction was perfect. Nice to see some 24 alum. Glenn Morshower and Tony Todd's voice.
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