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Old June 23 2009, 04:51 PM   #31
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Re: Will Star Trek live forever?

Thinking about it now, I think it'll last exactly three seconds longer than any of you suspect it will.
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Old June 23 2009, 05:08 PM   #32
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Star Trek has embedded itself in the American psyche pretty deeply

Forever? Probably not. But we have an easy fifty years left
I totally agree.

The canon of TV & Movies put onto DVD and now Blu-ray will exist worldwide for decades to come. Once DVD and BD formats become obsolete the shows/feature films themselves will just be copied to another medium but the MPEG2 and AVC MPEG-4 encodings will be able to be played by media file players for many decades.
MPEG-21 Part 9 setup in the year 2002 will be the next file format after MPEG-4. All of the Trek canon will be playable once converted to MPEG-4 or MPEG-21.

We can expect another 25 years of Star Trek canon to be produced under the Star Trek franchise name.
Whether it is produced for TV, web, or cinema distribution does not really matter. In the future with all video content on-demand it would play on most people's 3 devices: mobile phone/PDA, computer with 20" screen, HDTV with 50" screen. It will exist as a digital video file.

After another quarter century we will still have entertainment content producers making 2D and 3D entertainment content video. Whether Paramount merges or is bought by another company is up to history.
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Old June 24 2009, 04:03 PM   #33
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Re: Will Star Trek live forever?

I think you can go a little further than that.

Culture comes and goes, but nostalgia is a constant. And, in many cases, self-perpetuating.

For instance, the comic strip "Flash Gordon" debuted in 1934; that created the serials of the thirties through 1940. 14 years later, nostalgia brought Flash back in a TV series during the first wave of space TV (Space Patrol, Rocky Jones, Tom Corbett). 24 years after that, up came Filmation's cartoon, followed immediately by the high-camp film with Max Von Sydow.

Again in 1986. Again in 1996. Again in 2007.

We could do the same with Buck Rogers, whose latest incarnation is due to hit the big screen in 2011.

Arguably, Trek has left a bigger cultural footprint than either of the two. So, with both of these pre-WWII franchises still spinning eighty years on, Trek may yet to even hit its "Middle Age."
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Old June 24 2009, 04:15 PM   #34
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Re: Will Star Trek live forever?

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After a seven-year hiatus of a Star Trek movie and the success with Trek XI, I think it is possible that Star Trek will live forever in some fashion. Oh sure, there were thoughts back when TNG first aired that probably didn't think TNG would last more then a season or two. I'm also sure that back in the 60's the original cast probably thought Trek was over in 69' when TOS was cancelled.

But alas, 40 years later and Star Trek is bigger then ever! I think the film has even revamped TrekBBS. There has been more positive talk about Trek in these forums since long I can remember.

Think Star Trek will live forever?
I could argue whether Trek is bigger than it's ever been. In the late '80s and early '90s I think it had broader support.

And the new film reduced Trek to its lowest denominators. This is progress? They ripped any semblance of substance out of it. If they continue on this path then they'll just succeed it making it look like stupid fluff, and they're off to a good start.
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Old June 24 2009, 08:42 PM   #35
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Re: Will Star Trek live forever?

^^^Well, yeah, but your sig clearly indicates that you believe there hasn't been any decent Trek since 1979, so I'd say you were a bit biased. The new movie had quite a few good things going for it in spite of any supposed "dumbing down". As a long-time Trekkie, I will simply point out "The Way to Eden", "The Omega Glory" and "A Piece of the Action" as examples of earlier "dumbing down".

ST has entered the pop culture zeitgeist, especially TOS characters. As many have already pointed out, as long as people fondly remember it and there is a buck to be made, there will be some version of ST out there.
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Old June 25 2009, 02:54 AM   #36
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All good things... I'm sure ST will seem quaint and slightly foolish whenever humanity really does develop starships with faster-than-light propulsion. Although, I really do not expect to reach a currency-free economic system before that time. The future will undoubtedly be paved in Federation Credits and Gold-Pressed Latinum.
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Old June 25 2009, 03:02 AM   #37
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Re: Will Star Trek live forever?

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Salvor Hardin.
Quoting Foundation is always a plus!

As for Trek, I can see it lasting, in some form or another, for many, many years. A great number of TOS episodes have solid relevancy to the human equation. Toss in TNG and DS9, at least, and you've got a wealth of very important stories that mean something for our civilization, and for us as individuals within that civilization. Abrams demonstrated that the basic premise can survive aesthetic and philosophic changes to fit the zeitgeist of the times. So as long as people are willing to accept new visions of the basic Trek premise, the franchise should continue to flourish.
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Old June 25 2009, 03:15 AM   #38
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No. There will be a time when Star Trek will be long forgotten.

Unless.


Unless you take a certain courses of action which could allow future history to develop in such a manner that a Trek similar future comes about by those actions.

Do you see what I mean?
Yes, and it's silly.

No, Finn is right - Star Trek will be forgotten, and probably a great deal sooner than you imagine.
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Old June 25 2009, 03:16 AM   #39
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As a long-time Trekkie, I will simply point out "The Way to Eden", "The Omega Glory" and "A Piece of the Action" as examples of earlier "dumbing down".
Star Trek isn't any "dumber" now than in 1968.
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Old June 25 2009, 03:25 AM   #40
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Re: Will Star Trek live forever?

Well, when in however many years a Federation of Planets is formed then we will know.
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Old June 25 2009, 03:26 AM   #41
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Well, when in however many years a Federation of Planets is formed then we will know.
Yeah.

IOW never.
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Old June 25 2009, 03:45 AM   #42
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Well, when in however many years a Federation of Planets is formed then we will know.
Yeah.

IOW never.
Exactly, none of us here will ever know if Star Trek lasts "forever". Some of us will know if it last another 90, but not much farther than that.
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Old June 25 2009, 05:43 AM   #43
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yes
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Old June 25 2009, 05:43 AM   #44
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Old June 25 2009, 05:44 AM   #45
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