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Old June 21 2009, 01:53 AM   #16
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Re: Official Blurb for The Soul Key

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I'm sure that's the final cover art. But I agree the artwork for Never-Ending Sacrifice is great!

Can't wait till both books are on my shelf.
Definitely. I'd love to have a full poster-sized version of the NES cover without the text! As for the TSK cover...
AMEN to this. Do they even sell those anywhere?
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Old June 21 2009, 06:09 AM   #17
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I'm really looking forward to getting Soul key and Never ending Sacrifice's cover is some of the best ds9 cover art I've seen in along time. I wonder who the artist is ,who did that terrific artwork.
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Old June 22 2009, 03:02 PM   #18
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There goes another $7.99 of mine.
Only 7.99? Booo! I'll be it'll be 13$ here or something. Should get one where you are... But so worth it, I've been on the edge of my seat for this and TN-ES!!!!!

Tho the blurb is what I expected...

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Old June 22 2009, 04:44 PM   #19
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Sadly that blurb doesn't tell us anything new if you've read the prior two books.
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Old June 22 2009, 05:05 PM   #20
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True... but how often do they, really?

I'd rather not know, I think. And keep bouncing off the walls in a mix of excitement and fear.
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Old June 22 2009, 05:08 PM   #21
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True... but how often do they, really?

I'd rather not know, I think. And keep bouncing off the walls in a mix of excitement and fear.
Fear that your "save Taran'atar" campaign might need to be replaced by a "Taran'atar RIP" signiture? I share your fear. Exciting, isn't it?!
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Old June 22 2009, 05:21 PM   #22
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That's the fear part...
I liked how Olivia Wood handled people and their feelings towards Taran'atar in FS... actually I've been pleased about how all the DS9PF writers have. They've been great following the lead of characters like Sisko and Odo when it comes to the Jem'Hadar.

Hmm... a Taran'atar RIP signature... dear land I hope not... I'll have to start rooting for Rotan'talag then. Taran'atar's name sounds... smooth next to that...
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Old June 22 2009, 08:26 PM   #23
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^ Fearful Symmetry does have that great scene where Sisko mentions some of the Jem'Hadar they've encountered over the years.
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Old June 22 2009, 10:17 PM   #24
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That's the fear part...
I liked how Olivia Wood handled people and their feelings towards Taran'atar in FS... actually I've been pleased about how all the DS9PF writers have. They've been great following the lead of characters like Sisko and Odo when it comes to the Jem'Hadar.

Hmm... a Taran'atar RIP signature... dear land I hope not... I'll have to start rooting for Rotan'talag then. Taran'atar's name sounds... smooth next to that...
I agree the relaunch has done a fantastic job of reminding us Jem'Hadar are people, each unique and complex in his own right, and not just war-cattle. I also agree with you and the above post that the discussion about Jem'Hadar in "Fearful Symmetry" was a highlight of the book.

Just out of interest, how exactly do you pronounce "Taran'atar"? Is it Ta-Ran-A-tar or taran-Atar?
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Old June 22 2009, 10:23 PM   #25
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Just out of interest, how exactly do you pronounce "Taran'atar"? Is it Ta-Ran-A-tar or taran-Atar?
Onscreen, Jem'Hadar names were generally iambic, with the main stress on the second syllable and a secondary stress on the fourth syllable. I assume Taran'atar's name would be the same.
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Old June 22 2009, 10:25 PM   #26
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Just out of interest, how exactly do you pronounce "Taran'atar"? Is it Ta-Ran-A-tar or taran-Atar?
Onscreen, Jem'Hadar names were generally iambic, with the main stress on the second syllable and a secondary stress on the fourth syllable. I assume Taran'atar's name would be the same.
Ah, yes, thank you. I thought so, and I tend to go with Ta-Ran-A-tar, but it's been a while since I watched my DS9 (no time, sadly).
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Just out of interest, how exactly do you pronounce "Taran'atar"? Is it Ta-Ran-A-tar or taran-Atar?
Onscreen, Jem'Hadar names were generally iambic, with the main stress on the second syllable and a secondary stress on the fourth syllable. I assume Taran'atar's name would be the same.
Did you find it sometimes depended on who was talking? Or was I just not paying attention. it was more/less subtle?

It seemed like Worf used more stress, and Weyoun (and Bashir) barely stressed at all...

I'm still about confused about how Jadzia pronounced Virak'kara's name. Then again, it was in the middle of a battle.
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Old June 22 2009, 11:31 PM   #28
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I'm still about confused about how Jadzia pronounced Virak'kara's name. Then again, it was in the middle of a battle.
Yeah, purely by looking at it, that one seems to buck the trend - i would imagine it as Veer-ak-KAR-ah.

Similarly one of the names from "Hippocratic Oath" - Temo'Zuma. Now I realize that's some kind of in-joke, and that it was never actually spoken onscreen, but by the look of it, it would be TEM-oh-ZOO-mah.

I always liked the name Ikat'Ika myself. Just sounds cool.
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Old June 22 2009, 11:36 PM   #29
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Just out of interest, how exactly do you pronounce "Taran'atar"? Is it Ta-Ran-A-tar or taran-Atar?
Onscreen, Jem'Hadar names were generally iambic, with the main stress on the second syllable and a secondary stress on the fourth syllable. I assume Taran'atar's name would be the same.
Did you find it sometimes depended on who was talking? Or was I just not paying attention. it was more/less subtle?

It seemed like Worf used more stress, and Weyoun (and Bashir) barely stressed at all...

I'm still about confused about how Jadzia pronounced Virak'kara's name. Then again, it was in the middle of a battle.
Weyoun has such a silky voice normally, and lower and faster when he's angry, I don't believe he stresses much of anything. Bashir tends to pronounce non-human names differently, anyway: Quark, for instance. I suppose Worf would use more stresses, being a Klingon warrior with a forceful approach to most of life's problems. I don't remember how Jadzia pronounced Virak'kara. I haven't watched my DS9 in far too long.

Hmmm, speaking of Jadzia, I'm reminded that in the episode "Equilibrium", the Trill doctor Renhol pronounced Jadzia with a stress on the first syllable, and the name was much more compact. I've always liked to think that this is the true pronounciation (seeing as it was a Trill on planet Trill using it), and the "normal" way of pronouncing it is how Standard renders the name. Maybe Jem'Hadar names come through different translators differently? This might be why the stresses are different on occasion. Does this make sense, or is it random babbling?
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Old June 23 2009, 02:07 AM   #30
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I'm still about confused about how Jadzia pronounced Virak'kara's name. Then again, it was in the middle of a battle.
I would expect it to be iambic, as every other Jem'Hadar name I know was. So Virak'kara.

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Similarly one of the names from "Hippocratic Oath" - Temo'Zuma. Now I realize that's some kind of in-joke, and that it was never actually spoken onscreen, but by the look of it, it would be TEM-oh-ZOO-mah.
Not necessarily. If it were, say, a Japanese name, then it would be pronounced pretty much according to the usual iambic pattern of a J'H name, Temozuma. (Whenever you see a U in a Japanese word, you can assume it's unstressed to the point of virtual nonexistence.) And I recall a special on Native American history in which the name of Mohtecuhzoma (the Aztec ruler generally known as Montezuma) was accented similarly in the narration, with the stresses on the second and final syllables. Not every language uses the rhythms and emphases we'd expect in English.
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