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Old June 19 2009, 02:17 AM   #31
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Man, we really need an official Vesta-class design. I hate reading a book where I have no idea what a ship's class is. This bothered me with the Titan series until we got the official Titan design in 2005.
We do have a Vesta-design. It's a bit like an Excelsior in a half-shell. It's pretty impressive.
May we have a link please, sir?
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^Uhh, the link is in the two posts immediately preceding yours.
Sorry, my bad...I was responding to a post on Page 1 and had not scanned ahead to find the link submitted. Tried to edit my post afterwards but it wouldn't take...hmmm. Probably didn't do it right. Where's one of my sarcastic computer-savvy teenagers when I need 'em?

That being said, the drawing linked to is a little short on detail. Are there links available to fan-made designs, if not the "actual" intended design?

And to answer a previous poster, according to "Full Circle", pages 510-511, the DQ fleet will consist...

(1) USS Voyager

(2) and (3) Vesta-class ships USS Esquiline and USS Quirinal

(4), (5), and (6) unknown-class science ships USS Hawking, USS Planck, and USS Curie, one each to tag along with 1, 2, and 3 above. I had thought there was a mention of a USS Hawking in a TNG episode, but a cursory glance at Memory Alpha shows no listing.

(7) unknown-class specialty ship USS Galen (staffed by advanced holograms and serves as primary medical resource)

(8) unknown-class specialty ship USS Achilles (carries vital backup components for the fleet's technology along with industrial replicators)

(9) unknown-class specialty ship USS Demeter (houses a vast airponics bay to provide supplemental food, as well as storage facilities for biological resources the fleet finds along its way)

Hope this helps.
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Old June 19 2009, 02:23 AM   #32
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With it's ability to split into three, it would be a great defensive ship.
I would hope that the fleet has at least one or two ships designed for potential battles, considering how hostile the DQ was towards Voyager for years. Something like a Sovereign, Prometheus, or Galaxy class would work. Or we could settle for a pair of Akiras.
I agree, but I am thinking that the two Vesta-class ships accompanying the DQ fleet are well-designed for combat as well as exploration, as we saw the Aventine unafraid to kick some ass in the Destiny books.

And remember, Voyager was no slouch in the combat department, either.

That being said, since they are going on an open-ended mission of exploration and also checking on the status of Borg space, I am also thinking that they might have fitted some extra combat modifications on Voyager and the two Vestas...just in case.
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Old June 19 2009, 02:29 AM   #33
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Those last three ships sound like transports...
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Old June 19 2009, 02:50 AM   #34
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(4), (5), and (6) unknown-class science ships USS Hawking, USS Planck, and USS Curie, one each to tag along with 1, 2, and 3 above. I had thought there was a mention of a USS Hawking in a TNG episode, but a cursory glance at Memory Alpha shows no listing.

(7) unknown-class specialty ship USS Galen (staffed by advanced holograms and serves as primary medical resource)

(8) unknown-class specialty ship USS Achilles (carries vital backup components for the fleet's technology along with industrial replicators)

(9) unknown-class specialty ship USS Demeter (houses a vast airponics bay to provide supplemental food, as well as storage facilities for biological resources the fleet finds along its way)
I'm curious... where the other ships are named according to their specialty (science, medicine, agriculture), why is an apparent engineering/porter vessel named for a warrior? Also, while I appreciate the naming pattern, I wish there had been a bit more diveristy... some non-Western names, maybe even alien names?

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Old June 19 2009, 03:00 AM   #35
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That being said, the drawing linked to is a little short on detail. Are there links available to fan-made designs, if not the "actual" intended design?
The drawing is the artist's preliminary sketch for the design he was commissioned to make for Pocket Books. The designer posts here occasionally, and I believe his last update was that the fully rendered design was nearly complete. I'm thinking it might be revealed at Shore Leave, but that's just a guess. Anyway, it will be featured on the cover of at least one of the Typhon Pact novels in 2010.
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Old June 19 2009, 08:22 AM   #36
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Or maybe I don't understand the question.
I guess I wasn't too clear.

We only know the class of three of the nine ships.

What kind of classes do you hope to see? How do you see this fleet working? Do you see this many ships (and accompanying crews) becoming too much for one series? Etc.

Stuff like that.
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Old June 19 2009, 07:04 PM   #37
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Or maybe I don't understand the question.
I guess I wasn't too clear.

We only know the class of three of the nine ships.

What kind of classes do you hope to see? How do you see this fleet working? Do you see this many ships (and accompanying crews) becoming too much for one series? Etc.

Stuff like that.
Oh, on the contrary. I see this many ships and crews, as well as the fact that they didn't specify some of the ship classes, providing much fuel for further Delta Quadrant stories.

Maybe even a spin-off...
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Old June 19 2009, 10:07 PM   #38
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I'm curious... where the other ships are named according to their specialty (science, medicine, agriculture), why is an apparent engineering/porter vessel named for a warrior?
That's a good question. And the name is there for a reason. I can't promise my original intention there will be fulfilled as I'm not sure how the series is going to develop with other authors, but it was done intentionally on my part.

As to the western emphasis, Marco and I discussed it and he actually told me he was going to revisit all of the names with the question you've raised in mind. As the book was released with my original names intact, I can only assume he decided this was okay. You make a fair point. Just not the way it turned out this time.


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Old June 19 2009, 11:47 PM   #39
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(4), (5), and (6) unknown-class science ships USS Hawking, USS Planck, and USS Curie, one each to tag along with 1, 2, and 3 above. I had thought there was a mention of a USS Hawking in a TNG episode, but a cursory glance at Memory Alpha shows no listing.

(7) unknown-class specialty ship USS Galen (staffed by advanced holograms and serves as primary medical resource)

(8) unknown-class specialty ship USS Achilles (carries vital backup components for the fleet's technology along with industrial replicators)

(9) unknown-class specialty ship USS Demeter (houses a vast airponics bay to provide supplemental food, as well as storage facilities for biological resources the fleet finds along its way)
I'd like to see the EMV be revealed as Olympic Class (USS Pasteur from "AGT..."), as I've always thought of her as a very classy ship design. The holo-ship from Insurrection is probably just as likely; in which case I'd like to see (8) or (9) be Olympics.
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Old June 20 2009, 12:52 AM   #40
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Do you see this many ships (and accompanying crews) becoming too much for one series? Etc.

Stuff like that.
Kind of like Titan with it's big cast, I really think the best way to go about this would be to focus on one, two, or maybe this ships per book. Since it is the name of the series, I'm thinking Voyager would pretty much always be one of them,
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Old June 20 2009, 02:39 AM   #41
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I'm assuming once they're there the fleet will be braking up to go explore there own areas of expertise, and meeting up with each other as and when necessary for whatever they get up to.

So I can see a lot of potential for a short story anthology once the mission is underway; we could see follow-ups to all sorts of Delta Quadrant dangling threads as each ships goes off and explores and what not.
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Old June 20 2009, 02:52 AM   #42
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Re: Discuss: The Voyager Fleet

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We do have a Vesta-design. It's a bit like an Excelsior in a half-shell. It's pretty impressive.
May we have a link please, sir?
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^Uhh, the link is in the two posts immediately preceding yours.
Sorry, my bad...I was responding to a post on Page 1 and had not scanned ahead to find the link submitted. Tried to edit my post afterwards but it wouldn't take...hmmm. Probably didn't do it right. Where's one of my sarcastic computer-savvy teenagers when I need 'em?

That being said, the drawing linked to is a little short on detail. Are there links available to fan-made designs, if not the "actual" intended design?

And to answer a previous poster, according to "Full Circle", pages 510-511, the DQ fleet will consist...

(1) USS Voyager

(2) and (3) Vesta-class ships USS Esquiline and USS Quirinal

(4), (5), and (6) unknown-class science ships USS Hawking, USS Planck, and USS Curie, one each to tag along with 1, 2, and 3 above. I had thought there was a mention of a USS Hawking in a TNG episode, but a cursory glance at Memory Alpha shows no listing.

(7) unknown-class specialty ship USS Galen (staffed by advanced holograms and serves as primary medical resource)

(8) unknown-class specialty ship USS Achilles (carries vital backup components for the fleet's technology along with industrial replicators)

(9) unknown-class specialty ship USS Demeter (houses a vast airponics bay to provide supplemental food, as well as storage facilities for biological resources the fleet finds along its way)

Hope this helps.
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Old June 20 2009, 02:53 AM   #43
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I'm assuming once they're there the fleet will be braking up to go explore there own areas of expertise, and meeting up with each other as and when necessary for whatever they get up to.

So I can see a lot of potential for a short story anthology once the mission is underway; we could see follow-ups to all sorts of Delta Quadrant dangling threads as each ships goes off and explores and what not.
I had figured they'd stick together, but that makes sense too.
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Old June 20 2009, 03:28 AM   #44
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I had figured they'd stick together, but that makes sense too.
I can see them maybe going off in pairs, particularly the science and medical ships staying with a better armed ship. But it seems pretty normal for Starfleet to send single ships off on missions of exploration, and considering these few ships are Starfleet’s entire presence in the Delta Quadrant there's a lot of space for them be looking at. Plus with slipstream even spread out the fleet is always going to be easy to get back together if one ship needs backup.
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Plus with slipstream even spread out the fleet is always going to be easy to get back together if one ship needs backup.
Can ships that aren't travelling in slipstream keep regular contact with those that are?

Meaning: Is it not like B5's Hyperspace, where it's easy to get lost if you lose the beacon?
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