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Old June 17 2009, 01:37 AM   #166
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Absolutely amazing, Geoff and Nerys! I'm blown away. Ree reminds me a bit of Zorak from Space Ghost, so I almost laughed when I saw him. Definitely looking forward to more of these!
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Old June 17 2009, 02:16 AM   #167
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Well...I found time.

I'm afraid my work does not measure up on the technical side at all to yours (me + drawing hands especially = bad), but I still hope that in some way this will capture the wonderful character you detailed for us.

This is for you, Mr. Thorne!


The left hand looks pretty good. I have had trouble with hands also. It can be hard to get the thumbs to look like they're attached in the right spot. On that left hand, even though the thumb is the right length, and the knuckle is in the right spot, it almost looks like its attached at the same point as the fingers.
I think the negative space between the index and thumb would go a few inches further "up". The thumb bone itself would be attaching right around where the stripe is on the uniform sleeve.

Nice shading work, and real personality in the face.
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Old June 17 2009, 03:02 AM   #168
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These are amazing, Geoff, really beautifully done! I haven't actually read Titan yet outside of the Destiny books, but these illustrations have definitely sparked more interest. I'd love to see this actually somehow make it into a real live (so to speak) tv show!

Any chance you could do some Destiny characters (esp. the Palais and Aventine characters) after Vanguard and SFA?
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Old June 17 2009, 03:08 AM   #169
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I'm not against it but it'll be a long wait. Blame VANGUARD.
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Old June 18 2009, 02:59 AM   #170
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Fantastic work. Thanks so much for sharing!
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Old June 18 2009, 09:05 AM   #171
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Nice. I hadn't envisioned Orilly actually wearing that much of a uniform, but it's an interesting interpretation...
I think we miss out on some really nifty design possibilites when non-humanoids don't wear uniforms. Humans and countless humanoids don't really need to wear them either but we do - why not non-humanoids? An argument is that some, like (to use an example from your books) the Pak'shree or Horta, are so robust they really don't need them. But I say that's humanoid-centric: so they're stronger than us but why should we be the measure of all things? Plus, uniforms are also a matter of identification, modesty (though that varies species-to-species), and esthetics (ditto).

It'd be cool to see a uniform tailored to various forms, or made of different materials. The Pak'shree have a part of their exoskelleton painted to show their division, but how about a hard shell uniform that covers more of them? When they warred with each other, they may have developed protective armors to better their chances on the battlefield. And maybe textiles or elaborate whole-body paintjobs (in lieu of textile fashions) arose from that. A Horta, even as it's heat-burrowing through solid rock, may have some non-harmful molecularly-bonded pigment that identifies its rank and division, maybe a special unobtainium-cased combadge as well.

I'm loving this thread, Geoff. Love seeing!!! all these great characters and designs - yours too Nerys! I always look forward to the Titan book covers to get a glimpse of these marvelous characters we can only imagine.

If I could make a two changes to Orilly's uniform though I'd give his "arms" sleeves, and change the pattern of where the blue is...the way it is now it reminds me of human on all fours rather than a being in its natural state.
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Old June 18 2009, 09:19 AM   #172
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Old June 18 2009, 01:54 PM   #173
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Old June 18 2009, 05:56 PM   #174
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Nice. I hadn't envisioned Orilly actually wearing that much of a uniform, but it's an interesting interpretation...
I think we miss out on some really nifty design possibilites when non-humanoids don't wear uniforms. Humans and countless humanoids don't really need to wear them either but we do - why not non-humanoids? An argument is that some, like (to use an example from your books) the Pak'shree or Horta, are so robust they really don't need them. But I say that's humanoid-centric: so they're stronger than us but why should we be the measure of all things? Plus, uniforms are also a matter of identification, modesty (though that varies species-to-species), and esthetics (ditto).
True, but seeing as how Orilly is covered in pangolin-like armor plates, it's not like a layer of cloth is going to provide any real protection. Plus, how do you dress a walking pinecone? I can imagine the fabric constantly getting caught between the plates as she moves and either getting torn or impeding her movement.


Maybe something loose could work, something like a horse blanket draped over her back and fastened around the front. But it might make more sense just to give her a sort of harness for carrying her equipment and combadge.

(Oh, and she's supposed to be honey-brown in color, not blue.)


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Interesting. A pretty radical departure from how I envisioned it:


Goes to show how differently the same description can be interpreted by different people.

I like the use of uniform colors on his torso plating, though. I can see that working well with my design too.

Just to complete the trifecta, here's K'chak'!'op:


I'm curious to see how Geoff interprets her. I can't recall if I ever mentioned what her coloration is. I think she's supposed to be red or reddish-brown, like a crab.
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Old June 18 2009, 10:22 PM   #175
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Cute ^_^
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Old June 18 2009, 10:57 PM   #176
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There is seriously a cyborg kangaroo in these books?
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Old June 18 2009, 11:20 PM   #177
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Yep, and he's a really interesting character. Although obviously he's not actually a Kangaroo, his species is called Choblik and they were modified ages ago by an unknown alien race.
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Old June 18 2009, 11:32 PM   #178
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I'd be kind of scared of K'Chak'!'Op.
Do you have any more pics of the Titan characters, Christopher?
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Old June 19 2009, 12:10 AM   #179
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There is seriously a cyborg kangaroo in these books?
Well, as you can see in my drawing, the intent was for Torvig to be built kind of like a cross between a deer and an ostrich, albeit with a long, prehensile tail. Geoff's interpreted him as being somewhat more upright than I had in mind, but maybe he's rearing up for some reason.


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Do you have any more pics of the Titan characters, Christopher?
No, just of the three I created. I've contemplated trying my hand at drawing Dr. Cethente (who has a prominent scene or two in Over a Torrent Sea), but I haven't gotten around to it. I haven't really done any art in a while.
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Old June 19 2009, 12:21 AM   #180
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I would assume Torvig's cybernetics would adapt him into a more upright position to accommodate duties on a vessel that was not designed for Choblik use but for fairly large humanoids.

None of this stuff is hard and fast, guys.

Torvig looks "right" both ways.
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