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Old June 15 2009, 06:56 PM   #16
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Is Brubaker handling the "Reborn" series?
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Old June 15 2009, 06:57 PM   #17
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Old June 15 2009, 07:25 PM   #18
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Far as I know Brubaker is still on Cap yes, and not surprised about this announcement either. I've enjoyed Bucky as Captain America but liked him better as Winter Soldier. Steve coming back in time for his own movie isn't a shock. Probably won't pick up the issue since I too collect trades.
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Old June 15 2009, 07:36 PM   #19
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I know Brubaker is on Cap, but the "Reborn" is a separate, 5-issue series.

I'm mostly a DC guy, but Brubakers run on Captain America has been nothing short of stellar - it's one of my top 3 overall books, period, and I've definitely enjoyed the Bucky-as-Cap arcs as well.
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Old June 15 2009, 08:43 PM   #20
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WOW! what a surprise. I saw this coming even before they killed him! Another reason why I left the BIG two.
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Old June 15 2009, 09:11 PM   #21
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^Scotty the Adulterer is about the first interesting thing ever to happen to the character.

I think a few people forget how Jean was behaving when it started, too.
Go read Dark Phoenix Saga, The Simonson's X-Factor run, or X-Cutioners Song and get back to me on that, fanboy.


Well, at least they'll bring back Classic Cap..... I'm tired of the "new" Captain America... You know, the one who uses a gun, totally defeating the entire purpose of a Superhero in the first place?
Bucky is awful, awful, awful and is a perfect representation of what is wrong with the creative mentality over at Marvel. Or should I say lack there of. If I wanted a second-rate Cable clone, I would have read X-Man.
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Old June 15 2009, 09:55 PM   #22
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Bucky is awful, awful, awful and is a perfect representation of what is wrong with the creative mentality over at Marvel. Or should I say lack there of. If I wanted a second-rate Cable clone, I would have read X-Man.
Have you actually read any of his stories? He's nothing like Cable.

Anyway, not surprised. Brubaker's run has been one big series of successes, so I expect his Reborn miniseries will be no different (and I'll be interested to see Hitch working with someone other than Millar for the first time since, er, I guess The Authority).
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Well, at least they'll bring back Classic Cap..... I'm tired of the "new" Captain America... You know, the one who uses a gun, totally defeating the entire purpose of a Superhero in the first place?
Plenty of superheroes use firearms; heck, Cap himself has in the past (particularly the Golden Age).

And Bucky hardly ever uses the gun, in any event; and when he has, he's shot to wound.
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Old June 15 2009, 09:59 PM   #23
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Have you actually read any of his stories? He's nothing like Cable.
He's a gritty anti-hero with a robot arm and a gun. The only difference I saw was that his gun isn't as big and he's more angry-emo then Hayden Christenson.
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Old June 15 2009, 10:02 PM   #24
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Have you actually read any of his stories? He's nothing like Cable.
He's a gritty anti-hero with a robot arm and a gun. The only difference I saw was that his gun isn't as big and he's more angry-emo then Hayden Christenson.
He's not an anti-hero. After recovering from his experiences as the Winter Soldier, New Cap has been determinedly trying to be a Steve-style superhero.
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Old June 15 2009, 10:14 PM   #25
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Have you actually read any of his stories? He's nothing like Cable.
He's a gritty anti-hero with a robot arm and a gun. The only difference I saw was that his gun isn't as big and he's more angry-emo then Hayden Christenson.
He's not an anti-hero. After recovering from his experiences as the Winter Soldier, New Cap has been determinedly trying to be a Steve-style superhero.
Don't kid yourself. He was supposed to be the hip, edgy Captain America. Armed with a dark and tortured past - not mention emo-hair - he'd make the world safe for Twilight fans everywhere. Oh, and something about freedom and justice in there somewhere too.

Kind of reminds me of when they killed off Optimus Prime and tried to replace him with a hip, cool counterpart. Bucky's probably going to be just as well remembered as Ronemus Prime(I think that's what his name is? was?). You can't improve on a classic and Bucky proved that. I'm looking forward to when he's killed off again.
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Old June 15 2009, 10:20 PM   #26
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Don't kid yourself. He was supposed to be the hip, edgy Captain America. Armed with a dark and tortured past - not mention emo-hair - he'd make the world safe for Twilight fans everywhere.
Er, no.

Also, he got a hair cut like three years ago.
I'm looking forward to when he's killed off again.
Doubtful, given how popular he is; fans like him and creators like using him now that he's been brought back. Unless Brubaker has it as an endgame of his story (possible, but he's a big Bucky fan, so I tend to doubt it), I expect him to be a fixture of Cap's supporting cast (and Steve really needs as much supporting cast as he can get).
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Old June 15 2009, 10:37 PM   #27
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Also, he got a hair cut like three years ago.
Fair enough. That would be when I gave up on the series. All I've heard since has made me nothing but glad I did.

Doubtful, given how popular he is; fans like him and creators like using him now that he's been brought back. Unless Brubaker has it as an endgame of his story (possible, but he's a big Bucky fan, so I tend to doubt it), I expect him to be a fixture of Cap's supporting cast (and Steve really needs as much supporting cast as he can get).
Well, yeah, they would keep him around. He brought in a lot of the glitter vamps who would never read a Captain America book normally.
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Old June 15 2009, 10:40 PM   #28
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I remember when they killed him off in Cap #25 most fans, myself included, were predicting Steve Rogers would return at or around issue #50. That issue hit the stands last month. We all predicted it and were right, within a small margin of error. We win! Consider yourselves to all to be no-prized.
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Old June 15 2009, 10:57 PM   #29
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Well, at least they'll bring back Classic Cap..... I'm tired of the "new" Captain America... You know, the one who uses a gun, totally defeating the entire purpose of a Superhero in the first place?
Plenty of superheroes use firearms; heck, Cap himself has in the past (particularly the Golden Age).

And Bucky hardly ever uses the gun, in any event; and when he has, he's shot to wound.

That was then. When they brought back Steve Rogers, they brought him back as the character we know and love today.

Other heroes use guns. But that's besides the point. This is Captain America. The reason he doesn't use a gun is because he is a man at his peak, using his wits against the enemies of Freedom, Liberty, and Democracy (He's loyal to his country's ideals more than the country, which is why I like him). Using a gun has brought him down to the level of the common soldier.

Don't kid yourself. He was supposed to be the hip, edgy Captain America. Armed with a dark and tortured past - not mention emo-hair - he'd make the world safe for Twilight fans everywhere. Oh, and something about freedom and justice in there somewhere too.
Thrall, I like you..... This is exactly what they were going for... Trying to make a new edgy anti hero.... Because hey, that sells.... How about they create a character not based on the archetypes, and let the character develop? Anyway, while we are talking about the anti heroes....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9yEgwqlyX20
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Kind of reminds me of when they killed off Optimus Prime and tried to replace him with a hip, cool counterpart. Bucky's probably going to be just as well remembered as Ronemus Prime(I think that's what his name is? was?). You can't improve on a classic and Bucky proved that. I'm looking forward to when he's killed off again.
From a grown-up perspectve, RODimus Prime is actually a surprisingly awesome character, even if he does turn into a futuristic winnebago for some reason.
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