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Old June 13 2009, 09:16 PM   #16
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Re: Star Trek: The Doomsday Machine - Special Edition Screencaps

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Very nice work, Professor. Are those sparks on the Constellation supposed to be from a hull breach on the bridge?
They are indeed. You'll see a much better view of this in Act I!
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Old June 14 2009, 04:18 AM   #17
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Re: Star Trek: The Doomsday Machine - Special Edition Screencaps

Frakking awesome... I'd only add to the gentle suggestion that the ship is a little too light, a touch too much ambience... but it still rocks.
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Old June 14 2009, 04:47 AM   #18
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I think I know what it is that is making it so plastic. there is no reflected light off the ships. I still have your other work and with apologies looks more realistic.
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Old June 14 2009, 08:48 AM   #19
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As usual marvelous work prof.
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Old June 14 2009, 04:36 PM   #20
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Re: Star Trek: The Doomsday Machine - Special Edition Screencaps

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I think I know what it is that is making it so plastic. there is no reflected light off the ships. I still have your other work and with apologies looks more realistic.
Soar_Dude, I am not sure I understand what you mean by "no reflected light"... can you point out some specific examples from the screencaps?

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Frakking awesome... I'd only add to the gentle suggestion that the ship is a little too light, a touch too much ambience... but it still rocks.
Your observation is spot-on, Klaus, but actually it's radiosity you're seeing; the only light source is the keylight. FWIW, the intensity of the radiosity is a deliberate choice for several reasons:
  1. It echoes the look of the 60's visual F/X.
  2. The reflected light from the dust remnants of System L-374 would light up the parts of the Enterprise in shadow more than if she were in deep space.
  3. Pure artistic choice.
Especially the last one. Doug Drexler recently wrote an article on his blog about how dark the NX-01 Enterprise was shot for Star Trek: Enterprise (emphasis mine):

I wish that the brightness of the ship had been a little more like this, closer to… you guessed it, the original Enterprise. The NX appeared dark and dingy on actual show. Against space it was often hard to see. Not to my taste. An Enterprise should not be pushed into the background, it should show boldly. It’s gallant and bright, and wears a white hat. But that was all part of the Berman look. If it stood out too much it was pushed back.
Doug could have been channeling me when he wrote that. The Enterprise isn't just a flying hunk of tin; she's an important supporting character of the series. In this particular episode, I'd even argue she's one of the stars (with her sister ship Constellation being the guest star).
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Old June 14 2009, 06:29 PM   #21
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Re: Star Trek: The Doomsday Machine - Special Edition Screencaps

One thing I never quite understood...

The doomsday machine could blow a planet up with one shot... the Constellation and Enterprise absorbed multiple shots from this ship...

Does that mean the Constitution ship could absorb more damage than a planet?
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Old June 14 2009, 06:34 PM   #22
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Scott The reflected gleam off the hull you could see the texture variation in the hull as the reflected light traveled down the hull in your 2006 work. I wish I could upload the video to show you the difference.
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Old June 14 2009, 07:06 PM   #23
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Re: Star Trek: The Doomsday Machine - Special Edition Screencaps

Okay, add me to the "just a little too much ambient lighting on the ship" crew, but I definitely don't think it needs to be as dark as ENT, either. I do think it could use stronger shadows, which might be why it seems to bright - the color of the ship is too even, with not enough contrast.

That being said, however, I think the clip looks great, and I have to say I really like the opening credits! This is the first time when I haven't thought it looked like Enterprise was 'sliding' across the screen, but actually shooting from the distance and past the camera; good choice to break from the tendency to 'recreate' the credits and to actually improve upon them; I especially like the last shot with De Kelley's credit. Thanks, Prof!

BTW, I also have to add that, looking back at your previous work, I prefer the Scene 13a, where Kirk crosses the main viewscreen, in which you had the planetary rubble still glowing from its destruction; it made it seem more immediate and terrifying, that the rock was still superheated from the weapon. But the final version looks great, too (just without the scan lines - I like to think their viewscreen technology has improved over a Sony Trinitron ).
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Old June 14 2009, 11:43 PM   #24
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Scott The reflected gleam off the hull you could see the texture variation in the hull as the reflected light traveled down the hull in your 2006 work. I wish I could upload the video to show you the difference.
Wow, I know exactly what you're talking about and couldn't disagree more... to my eye, those shots looks MORE fake. Different strokes, I guess
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I liked your video
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Old June 15 2009, 07:40 PM   #26
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Wow, I know exactly what you're talking about and couldn't disagree more... to my eye, those shots looks MORE fake. Different strokes, I guess

Maybe its just a color thing maybe it looks to grey maybe.
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Old June 16 2009, 01:02 AM   #27
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^^^ Well, on that score I agree with you on a couple of scenes where the lighting could have been better and the Enterprise is still too dark/flatly lit. Those are just going to have to wait though... I need to move on and plow through the rest of the episode or this thing will never be finished. If I still have any energy and sanity remaining come October (projected finish line), I'll come back and revisit some of the less successful scenes. Thanks for the feedback!
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Old June 16 2009, 02:15 AM   #28
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Re: Star Trek: The Doomsday Machine - Special Edition Screencaps

Professor, that washed-out nebula/dust field is fantastic! It really stands out and adds drama to the space shots.

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One thing I never quite understood...

The doomsday machine could blow a planet up with one shot... the Constellation and Enterprise absorbed multiple shots from this ship...

Does that mean the Constitution ship could absorb more damage than a planet?
CuttingEdge, I don't think the planet killer could destroy a planet with one shot ... from the dialog, it was suggested the ship sliced chunks out of planets, so I assume it hung over a planet, hitting it with that beam over and over until the planet was rubble. Remember, the stranded crew called Decker, begged him to rescue them from the planet's surface, but he was helpless.

I also suspect that the beam fired by the machine was too big to hit a starship with its full force. The planet killer's beam was intended to carve up planets, not starships, and most of the weapon's energy -- even on a direct hit -- simply flashes past harmlessly.
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Old June 16 2009, 02:58 AM   #29
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Re: Star Trek: The Doomsday Machine - Special Edition Screencaps

CuttingEdge100 wrote: View Post
One thing I never quite understood...

The doomsday machine could blow a planet up with one shot... the Constellation and Enterprise absorbed multiple shots from this ship...

Does that mean the Constitution ship could absorb more damage than a planet?
Well planets don't have shields, and we get the impression it took it a while to cut a planet up into bite-sized chunks... it's not a one-shot deal like the Death Star vs Alderaan. And I always assumed it tuned the attack to the target.
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Old June 16 2009, 04:10 AM   #30
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Oh thank God, I thought you had abandoned this. Ya know what, there are a few things here and there, but screw it, you have done an awesome job. I cant wait to see the rest.
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