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Old June 13 2009, 03:57 AM   #31
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And some casting news:

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Taylor Kitsch and Lynn Collins will star in "John Carter of Mars," the adaptation of the Edgar Rice Burroughs book series that Andrew Stanton is directing for Disney.

Kitsch will play the title character, Carter, while Collins is playing Dejah Thoris, the heir to the throne of Mars' Helium kingdom.
Kitsch has a bit of a generic "square jaw" look, not that thrilled about him, but Collins is interesting for Dejah Thoris. Her looks match the role, even tho I sort of expected a mixed-race actress, or someone of un-identifiable ethic background.
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Old June 13 2009, 05:52 AM   #32
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^^ Not just Disney, but Disney in Utah!
Will Dejah be wearing a chador or burqa?
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Old June 13 2009, 06:08 AM   #33
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She was as destitute of clothes as the green Martians who accompanied her; indeed, save for her highly wrought ornaments she was entirely naked, nor could any apparel have enhanced the beauty of her perfect and symmetrical figure.

Too bad this is Disney
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Old June 13 2009, 06:31 AM   #34
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Three small highly wrought ornaments should do the trick.
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Old June 13 2009, 09:45 AM   #35
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Yeah, they're likely to get the violence right, but not the nudity. What a world.

I'm not familiar with Michael Chabon, but a quick skim of his Wiki page made me smile; he seems to have a similar attitude toward writing as I do.
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Old June 13 2009, 10:39 AM   #36
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What is John Carter of Mars about? Is it good? Should I read the book?
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Old June 13 2009, 10:50 AM   #37
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What is John Carter of Mars about? Is it good? Should I read the book?

Edgar Rice Burroughs' Mars novels are among the greatest science fantasy adventure stories of all time. They've inspired artists and writers from Howard to Henlein to Roddenberry to Lucas, among others.

I'm a fan (obviously); I'm hoping that they do as good a job with the Barsoom stories as Jackson did with Middle Earth.
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Old June 13 2009, 01:51 PM   #38
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What is John Carter of Mars about? Is it good? Should I read the book?
It's important to note that you should read A Princess of Mars, since that is the book on which the movie is based. John Carter of Mars was the end of the series and, IMO, a lesser book.
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Old June 13 2009, 02:23 PM   #39
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"John Carter of Mars" is actually two different stories together in one volume. The first, "John Carter and the Giant of Mars", was originally intended as a juvenile story, and it shows. Although Burroughs eventually published this as a 'straight' Mars story, it is almost unanimously considered non-canonical by fans and scholars.

The other story in the collection, "Skeleton Men of Jupiter", is a short, somewhat underdeveloped novelette which was the last Mars story Burroughs ever wrote.
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Old June 13 2009, 02:37 PM   #40
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Yeah, they're likely to get the violence right, but not the nudity. What a world.
Somehow, I just don't think that the movie would make back its production costs if it were rated R.
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Old June 13 2009, 02:59 PM   #41
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The first book, "Princess of Mars," is a lot of fun. It's entirely brainless, of course, and racist, and misogynist, and Imperial, and all sorts of other things you would expect from this kind of book, from that period - but it's far better written, I think, than most other stuff of its type. What I mean by that is, it's not boring. The action is exciting, and the visuals are great fun. Don't expect the least bit of plot, characterization, or intelligence, though.

Interesting that everyone is hoping the movie is aimed at adults - why? The book is a kid's book. People read it when they're 12. Yes, it has lots of violence and nudity, but in that giggly non-realistic sort of way you get from comic books aimed at 12 year-olds. This isn't an adult book, and it shouldn't be an adult movie - it should be exactly what the book is: comically violent, over-the-top nonsense.
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Old June 13 2009, 04:53 PM   #42
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BTW, A Princess of Mars among others are part of the Project Gutenberg public domain e-text library.

http://www.cs.cmu.edu/~rgs/pmars-table.html


And it wasn't just Dejah that was naked but JC himself which would never ever happen in an American film I'd reckon.
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Old June 13 2009, 05:57 PM   #43
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The first book, "Princess of Mars," is a lot of fun. It's entirely brainless, of course, and racist, and misogynist, and Imperial, and all sorts of other things you would expect from this kind of book


Racist? Really? You got that from the book/series? I found it to be quite opposite - more of a condemnation on racism. Red and Black men/Barsoomians are good guys and the White men/Barsoomians were evil. This written at the time when the Red and Black humans were still treated as second-class (or worse) citizens while the Whites were the top of the pecking order.
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Old June 13 2009, 06:59 PM   #44
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What is John Carter of Mars about? Is it good? Should I read the book?
I highly recommend the John Carter books. They're among the best Pulp adventures ever written.

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The other story in the collection, "Skeleton Men of Jupiter", is a short, somewhat underdeveloped novelette which was the last Mars story Burroughs ever wrote.
I believe "Skeleton Men" was the first third of a trilogy, which is why it seems anticlimactic; at least, I think I heard that somewhere.

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Somehow, I just don't think that the movie would make back its production costs if it were rated R.
Depends on the initial budget; and think of what they'd save in wardrobe.

Actually, I've always pictured John Carter movies in the early 30s B&W style. To be more specific, I like the idea of an alternate universe where all those Weismuller-O'Sullivan Tarzan movies were John Carter movies instead.
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Old June 13 2009, 07:30 PM   #45
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Yeah, they're likely to get the violence right, but not the nudity. What a world.
It's the American way, is it not?

I'm not familiar with Michael Chabon, but a quick skim of his Wiki page made me smile; he seems to have a similar attitude toward writing as I do.
I've read Chabon's The Yiddish Policemen's Union, and I thought it was one of the best genre novels I've read in years. It's both an outstanding alternate-history novel, and an outstanding detective novel. It's Nebula award was well-deserved.

If that's a fair indication of the quality of Chabon's work, then the script is in good hands.

Colour me stoked. The Warlord of Mars, on the big screen at last. It's about time.
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