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Old June 11 2009, 11:40 AM   #31
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Re: Why did Kirk tell Gaila "That's weird"?

A little off topic, but do we know for certain that Gaila was an Orion? Yes, she's got green skin, but there are a lot of pink skinned lifeforms out there. It's possible that Orions are not the only green skinned species.

Any evidence either way?
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Old June 11 2009, 02:12 PM   #32
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To be honest, I think that he said 'that's so weird' because he seriously believed that Orion girls couldn't fall in love at all so he found what Gaila said to him weird. I don't think usual human female clichés apply to Orion females at all....but that's just me.
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Old June 11 2009, 04:45 PM   #33
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Re: Why did Kirk tell Gaila "That's weird"?

That's probably the first time he's slept with her. That would be a little awkward for me.
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Old June 11 2009, 04:49 PM   #34
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Re: Why did Kirk tell Gaila "That's weird"?

FPAlpha, I've seen the movie 15 times. Kirk is not thinking about what she said to him.

And as I said before, Kirk EXPECTS women to say they love him. It wouldn't be a surprise.
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Old June 11 2009, 05:20 PM   #35
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Re: Why did Kirk tell Gaila "That's weird"?

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A little off topic, but do we know for certain that Gaila was an Orion? Yes, she's got green skin, but there are a lot of pink skinned lifeforms out there. It's possible that Orions are not the only green skinned species.
The novel says she is an Orion.
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Old June 11 2009, 05:27 PM   #36
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Re: Why did Kirk tell Gaila "That's weird"?

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When he teased Uhura into telling her name, he said something like, "that's so weird, that was just the name I was going to pick".

I think he was about to do the same thing with Gaila, "that's so weird, that's just what I was going to say", but she cut him off before he got to the punch line. And then dear roomie walked in.

Roommatus interruptus...

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Yeah I mean if that's what the writers wanted him to say he would of said it...this is not real life where the conversation got interrupted.

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Can we same about when he bedded the green chick in ToS?
When did that happen?
It didn't...Kirk didn't have sex with an Orion in TOS ...as a matter of fact his playboy reputation is perhaps unwarranted. Recently saw a website (courtesy of Indranee) where someone broke down Kirk's sex action episode by episode.....more often than not he used his charm with the ladies to get the Enterprise out of a jam...not to satisfy his own desires and wants.


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No one else has done something similar? I'm a woman, and I've obviously never been a cocky male Starfleet cadet bedding a beautiful green chick, but in my dating days, I was always nonplussed by declarations of love from someone I didn't expect to give it and for whom I was not ready to bestow the same.

Usually, it resulted in some variation of, "uh. Okay. Thanks."

And even with the man I eventually married (and love fiercely to this day), the reaction was:
"Oh."

*Pause*
....

"I have to go."


Some people just find it weird.
If someone tells me they love me too soon it is a complete turnoff...but I've never responded with a "that's weird"...I think that line has nothing to do with her declaration of love for Kirk.

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What exactly was Kirk responding to when he said "That's weird" after Gaila said "I love you"? I do not think he was responding to Gaila's comment.
because when you really aren't that into a girl and when they start telling you "they love you" you get weirded out...hence the "weird" trust me..happening to me as I speak...
True, true...but do you actually say that to the person's face??? Did you tell this chick you're having troubles with "that's weird" after she said I love you? I think it would be weird to say that's wierd...LOL.



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Old June 11 2009, 05:34 PM   #37
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I imagine that this is not the first time Kirk has been told by an Orion woman that they love him which would be a rich irony considering the effect they usually have on men. Kirk is an Orion pheromone free zone.

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Old June 11 2009, 06:54 PM   #38
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Re: Why did Kirk tell Gaila "That's weird"?

Gail's not dead for sure; I watched last night to ascertain no one said what ship she was on -- and they didn't. I'm wishing she were on the Enterprise.
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Old June 11 2009, 07:08 PM   #39
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Re: Why did Kirk tell Gaila "That's weird"?

I guess Kirk was not that smooth-talking by that point in his life (well, he certainly was not 3 years before in the bar)... I took it as something that he said because he didn't know what else to say.

But it was obviously also a setup for the beautiful girl to turn the lights on, so the audience gets to see that she's a green alien.. punchline "Did you just say, "this is so weird"?"

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It didn't...Kirk didn't have sex with an Orion in TOS ...as a matter of fact his playboy reputation is perhaps unwarranted. Recently saw a website (courtesy of Indranee) where someone broke down Kirk's sex action episode by episode.....more often than not he used his charm with the ladies to get the Enterprise out of a jam...not to satisfy his own desires and wants.
He came close to being seduced by one in Whom Gods Destroy... but then she ruined it by trying to kill him!

It's true that he did not have that much sex... in some cases he flirted with some alien/android/crazy women for other purposes... and in a couple others, he actually fell in love but didn't get to do anything before the woman (or female android) tragically (and so conviently for the show) dies... The curse of disposable love interests!
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Old June 11 2009, 07:13 PM   #40
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Re: Why did Kirk tell Gaila "That's weird"?

^^^ RE: whom gods destroy...was he really going to do her for his own pleasure or was it to enlist her aid in their effort to escape...? I believe it's the latter....?
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Old June 11 2009, 07:31 PM   #41
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Re: Why did Kirk tell Gaila "That's weird"?

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^^^ RE: whom gods destroy...was he really going to do her for his own pleasure or was it to enlist her aid in their effort to escape...? I believe it's the latter....?
Most likely, yes. Just as in quite a few other cases (although they mostly amounted to kissing, not sex).

He really fell in love 2 or 3 times, but the women (conviently for the show) had to die. He was even married as 'Kirok', when he had amnesia and did not know who he was. And there were cases when he fell for women because of weird outside influences... i.e. brainwashed in Dagger of the Mind, Elaan's tears, the woman in A Private Little War...Again no sex in any of those cases.. We also met some of his exes, and he didn't have the nicest experience with the one in Court Martial... And one of the women he had a relationship with in TOS turned out ot be a serial killer...

All in all, not very lucky with the ladies, all considered?

OTOH, he came off as a bit of a horndog in Wolf in The Fold... but then so did Scotty and McCoy.

He did do the comfort girl in Bread and Circuses, though...

Am I forgetting anything? He was portrayed as a ladies' man in so many episodes, but very few of those flirtations actually qualify as a relationship or a romance, and many did not even go further than the first base (or less).
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Old June 11 2009, 08:22 PM   #42
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FPAlpha, I've seen the movie 15 times. Kirk is not thinking about what she said to him.

And as I said before, Kirk EXPECTS women to say they love him. It wouldn't be a surprise.
I'm not so sure - I get the impression that this Kirk has one night stands and short term relationships and doesn't expect them to last and is surprised that Gaila thinks there is something more in this one. Also I imagine that Kirk doesn't want a long term relationship.
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Old June 11 2009, 08:27 PM   #43
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Re: Why did Kirk tell Gaila "That's weird"?

When Gaila calls for the lights and asks if Kirk doesn't love her, too, Kirk sits back and says, "No, I meant..." -- correcting her, as though he was meaning something else completely. Then Uhura interrupts them.

He's not talking about what she said.
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Old June 11 2009, 08:32 PM   #44
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^^^ RE: whom gods destroy...was he really going to do her for his own pleasure or was it to enlist her aid in their effort to escape...? I believe it's the latter....?
Most likely, yes. Just as in quite a few other cases (although they mostly amounted to kissing, not sex).

He really fell in love 2 or 3 times, but the women (conviently for the show) had to die. He was even married as 'Kirok', when he had amnesia and did not know who he was. And there were cases when he fell for women because of weird outside influences... i.e. brainwashed in Dagger of the Mind, Elaan's tears, the woman in A Private Little War...Again no sex in any of those cases.. We also met some of his exes, and he didn't have the nicest experience with the one in Court Martial... And one of the women he had a relationship with in TOS turned out ot be a serial killer...

All in all, not very lucky with the ladies, all considered?

OTOH, he came off as a bit of a horndog in Wolf in The Fold... but then so did Scotty and McCoy.

He did do the comfort girl in Bread and Circuses, though...

Am I forgetting anything? He was portrayed as a ladies' man in so many episodes, but very few of those flirtations actually qualify as a relationship or a romance, and many did not even go further than the first base (or less).
Yeah he really did get quite the rep. as a lady killer...now we only saw what was on screen...... so In my mind I'm granting Kirk a little more action than what actually happened ....of course, off screen wink wink.

That website broke it down and I was really surprised to see ep after ep with Kirk not going after anyone -- this reputation of his is larger than life!
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Old June 11 2009, 08:35 PM   #45
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When Gaila calls for the lights and asks if Kirk doesn't love her, too, Kirk sits back and says, "No, I meant..." -- correcting her, as though he was meaning something else completely. Then Uhura interrupts them.

He's not talking about what she said.
He's looking for a way out of the foot-in-mouth situation he's landed himself in.
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