Advice needed on purchase of TOS DVDs, please!

VulKhan · June 8 2009, 09:44 PM

Hi y'all,

okay, so it's my birthday this weekend and I've put "all 3 TOS seasons on DVD" on my wishlist.

I've seen TOS in its original version on TV several times (last time, however, was at least 4 years ago), but don't have the DVDs yet. Of course I have to change that!

Now, I was wondering if maybe I could get a little advice from you guys on what version to buy. I know there's the original "unpolished" one, which is the one I know. (Can you still get this version on DVD, though?

), then there's the HD-DVD edition, and there are the remasters. The latest remastered version being these with the steelbook etc.:
http://www.amazon.de/Star-Trek-Raums...4493426&sr=1-1

So, what do you think would be best to get on DVD these days?
The unpolished one I know so well from when it was on TV (provided you can still get it)?
Or should it rather be the latest remasters, with better sound, added CGI effects and better and sharper picture quality? Do these still have the flare and feel of the old "raw" edition or is that all gone with the editing etc?
I doubt I would get the HD-DVD edition, cause it's so expensive.

What do you think?

Well, your help is much appreciated, so thanks.

KeepOnTrekking · June 8 2009, 10:25 PM

Personally, I went with the "unpolished" sets when they were flushing them out at Walmart for around $50 per set. These are the ones I grew up with. The remastered look is ok but a little cartoony for my tastes. I don't have a big screen hi-def tv so the "unpolished" fits my needs. The "unpolished" ones are no longer being manufactured but still pop up from time to time in stores like Suncoast or in some of the online websites. I haven't checked lately because I've already got my set of all 3 seasons, the animateds, and all the movies.

VulKhan · June 8 2009, 11:45 PM

Hmmm.....well, thanks, I guessed the originals aren't being produced anymore, so they might be a little hard to get. Oddly enough, you can get the at, say, amazon, on VHS.

Perhaps, I should not give anybody and hints on what version I'd prefer (everybody keeps asking me that), and just see what they come up with. *lol*
Most likely it's gonna be the remastered in the end, cause these are available everywhere right now and are not as expensive as the HD-DVD.

Gorn Captain · June 9 2009, 01:14 AM

Invest in a Blu Ray player, buy the 1st season which comes with both original and remaster. Then get the other two later this year.

plynch · June 9 2009, 02:56 AM

You can get "like new" unopened or slightly used copies of the unremastered versions on ebay (maybe amazon marketplace, too), if you aren't about to invest in a blu-ray player.

The remastered with new effects and space scenes are cartoon-looking and seeing such shots jammed into a show that looks very 60s otherwise, is jarring.

Happy Birthday and good luck!

gastrof · June 9 2009, 08:29 AM

It took me a few reads to finally realize what you meant by HD-DVD.

Do NOT buy those discs. The format has been discontinued and you won't be able to get all the episodes in that format. They only did season one.

Since HD-DVD as a format DIED Paramount stopped producing in that format, and the only high def discs that will have the whole series will be the blu-ray ones.

Also, if I understand right, the b-r discs will have both versions of the episodes (the original versions and the CGI remastered versions). If I'm wrong on that, someone correct me.

Of course, I don't know if there are SD versions on the blu-ray discs that'll play in a regular DVD player.

gastrof · June 9 2009, 08:33 AM

plynch wrote:

...The remastered with new effects and space scenes are cartoon-looking and seeing such shots jammed into a show that looks very 60s otherwise, is jarring...

The remastered new effects and space scenes are not cartoon-looking, and while some episodes were done better than others, none of them look terrible.

Captrek · June 9 2009, 11:02 AM

gastrof wrote:

It took me a few reads to finally realize what you meant by HD-DVD.

Do NOT buy those discs. The format has been discontinued and you won't be able to get all the episodes in that format. They only did season one.

I got the full series remastered on DVD. The Season One discs are HD DVD on one side and DVD on the other side. The Season Two and Season Three discs are single-sided DVDs.

Botany Bay · June 9 2009, 12:30 PM

plynch wrote:

The remastered with new effects and space scenes are cartoon-looking and seeing such shots jammed into a show that looks very 60s otherwise, is jarring.

Happy Birthday and good luck!

Agree on completely on both counts. Get the classic versions and save your money till they have another go at CGI and get it right.

seigezunt · June 9 2009, 03:14 PM

Get the original DVDs for now. Much cheaper. Then wait on blu-Ray getting cheaper, IMO.

Forbin · June 9 2009, 03:35 PM

gastrof wrote:

plynch wrote:

...The remastered with new effects and space scenes are cartoon-looking and seeing such shots jammed into a show that looks very 60s otherwise, is jarring...

The remastered new effects and space scenes are not cartoon-looking, and while some episodes were done better than others, none of them look terrible.

Yes they do!

Vulkhan - definitely get the originals if you can. Failing that, I'd go with the Blue Ray idea, so you can have the original in addition to the awful, cartoony desecrations.

Grant · June 9 2009, 05:33 PM

Buy the Blu-ray set.

Blu-ray players are now under $200. Also, even if you don't have an HDTV you can set the output of the Blu-ray player to work with a standard TV. That way you'll have the player and the best version of the show which is the blu-ray set.

Buy the Blu-ray set and you'll have both the original and new FX
And both the original and 7.1 sound
Also more bonus features than any other set by far.

Most of the new FX look great, some that they did first are a little weaker than the latter ones.

The old set (and 2-episode discs) were extremly dirty and had very poor contrast and color correction in comparison to the new restored versions.

Really it's just wasting money buying those old sets.

Indegato · June 9 2009, 05:55 PM

Awesome

seigezunt · June 9 2009, 09:51 PM

Grant wrote:

Buy the Blu-ray set.

Blu-ray players are now under $200. Also, even if you don't have an HDTV you can set the output of the Blu-ray player to work with a standard TV. That way you'll have the player and the best version of the show which is the blu-ray set.

Buy the Blu-ray set and you'll have both the original and new FX
And both the original and 7.1 sound
Also more bonus features than any other set by far.

Most of the new FX look great, some that they did first are a little weaker than the latter ones.

The old set (and 2-episode discs) were extremly dirty and had very poor contrast and color correction in comparison to the new restored versions.

Really it's just wasting money buying those old sets.

You know, I change my mind. I didn't realize blu-ray players were so cheap.

Go for the blu-ray.

Hober Mallow · June 9 2009, 10:24 PM

Gorn Captain wrote:

Invest in a Blu Ray player, buy the 1st season which comes with both original and remaster. Then get the other two later this year.

Not exactly. You only get the remastered version on blu-ray. You can, however, choose between original FX or new FX. The word "remaster" has nothing to do with the special FX.

June 8 2009, 09:44 PM	#1
VulKhan Lieutenant Location: Austria	Advice needed on purchase of TOS DVDs, please! Hi y'all, okay, so it's my birthday this weekend and I've put "all 3 TOS seasons on DVD" on my wishlist. I've seen TOS in its original version on TV several times (last time, however, was at least 4 years ago), but don't have the DVDs yet. Of course I have to change that! Now, I was wondering if maybe I could get a little advice from you guys on what version to buy. I know there's the original "unpolished" one, which is the one I know. (Can you still get this version on DVD, though? ), then there's the HD-DVD edition, and there are the remasters. The latest remastered version being these with the steelbook etc.: http://www.amazon.de/Star-Trek-Raums...4493426&sr=1-1 So, what do you think would be best to get on DVD these days? The unpolished one I know so well from when it was on TV (provided you can still get it)? Or should it rather be the latest remasters, with better sound, added CGI effects and better and sharper picture quality? Do these still have the flare and feel of the old "raw" edition or is that all gone with the editing etc? I doubt I would get the HD-DVD edition, cause it's so expensive. What do you think? Well, your help is much appreciated, so thanks. __________________ *Ah Kirk, my old friend. Do you know the Klingon proverb that tells us revenge is a dish that is best served cold? It is very cold in space. ~ Khan. ~ You're missed, Ricardo Montalban.*

June 8 2009, 10:25 PM	#2
KeepOnTrekking Commodore	Re: Advice needed on purchase of TOS DVDs, please! Personally, I went with the "unpolished" sets when they were flushing them out at Walmart for around $50 per set. These are the ones I grew up with. The remastered look is ok but a little cartoony for my tastes. I don't have a big screen hi-def tv so the "unpolished" fits my needs. The "unpolished" ones are no longer being manufactured but still pop up from time to time in stores like Suncoast or in some of the online websites. I haven't checked lately because I've already got my set of all 3 seasons, the animateds, and all the movies.

June 8 2009, 11:45 PM	#3
VulKhan Lieutenant Location: Austria	Re: Advice needed on purchase of TOS DVDs, please! Hmmm.....well, thanks, I guessed the originals aren't being produced anymore, so they might be a little hard to get. Oddly enough, you can get the at, say, amazon, on VHS. Perhaps, I should not give anybody and hints on what version I'd prefer (everybody keeps asking me that), and just see what they come up with. lol Most likely it's gonna be the remastered in the end, cause these are available everywhere right now and are not as expensive as the HD-DVD. __________________ *Ah Kirk, my old friend. Do you know the Klingon proverb that tells us revenge is a dish that is best served cold? It is very cold in space. ~ Khan. ~ You're missed, Ricardo Montalban.*

June 9 2009, 01:14 AM	#4
Gorn Captain Commander Location: Northfield, Vermont	Re: Advice needed on purchase of TOS DVDs, please! Invest in a Blu Ray player, buy the 1st season which comes with both original and remaster. Then get the other two later this year.

June 9 2009, 02:56 AM	#5
plynch Fleet Captain Location: Outer Graceland	Re: Advice needed on purchase of TOS DVDs, please! You can get "like new" unopened or slightly used copies of the unremastered versions on ebay (maybe amazon marketplace, too), if you aren't about to invest in a blu-ray player. The remastered with new effects and space scenes are cartoon-looking and seeing such shots jammed into a show that looks very 60s otherwise, is jarring. Happy Birthday and good luck!

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June 9 2009, 08:29 AM	#6
gastrof Rear Admiral Location: New Vulcan	Re: Advice needed on purchase of TOS DVDs, please! It took me a few reads to finally realize what you meant by HD-DVD. Do NOT buy those discs. The format has been discontinued and you won't be able to get all the episodes in that format. They only did season one. Since HD-DVD as a format DIED Paramount stopped producing in that format, and the only high def discs that will have the whole series will be the blu-ray ones. Also, if I understand right, the b-r discs will have both versions of the episodes (the original versions and the CGI remastered versions). If I'm wrong on that, someone correct me. Of course, I don't know if there are SD versions on the blu-ray discs that'll play in a regular DVD player. __________________ Trek: Onscreen is canon, books are interesting. Movies change canon, scissors wrap paper...or...something.

June 9 2009, 03:14 PM	#10
seigezunt Vice Admiral Location: Splashing on some Tiberius before a night on the town	Re: Advice needed on purchase of TOS DVDs, please! Get the original DVDs for now. Much cheaper. Then wait on blu-Ray getting cheaper, IMO. __________________ I am constantly surprised by the close-mindedness of some fans...this means change as well as a positive attitude. Without those things, how can we ever achieve that Trek future we enjoyed so much on TV? --Bjo Trimble

June 9 2009, 05:33 PM	#12
Grant Fleet Captain	Re: Advice needed on purchase of TOS DVDs, please! Buy the Blu-ray set. Blu-ray players are now under $200. Also, even if you don't have an HDTV you can set the output of the Blu-ray player to work with a standard TV. That way you'll have the player and the best version of the show which is the blu-ray set. Buy the Blu-ray set and you'll have both the original and new FX And both the original and 7.1 sound Also more bonus features than any other set by far. Most of the new FX look great, some that they did first are a little weaker than the latter ones. The old set (and 2-episode discs) were extremly dirty and had very poor contrast and color correction in comparison to the new restored versions. Really it's just wasting money buying those old sets.

June 9 2009, 05:55 PM	#13
Indegato Ensign	Re: Advice needed on purchase of TOS DVDs, please! Awesome