Name your ship! - Page 5

Myasishchev · June 1 2009, 09:40 PM

Edinburgh wrote:

Could you have a USS Bismarck.

I don't see why not. IJN ships are represented, so why not the DKM?

I've always been partial to the name Graf Zeppelin myself.

John Clark · June 1 2009, 09:44 PM

Either the Normandy (too much playing a certain computer game) or Agincourt

Edinburgh · June 1 2009, 10:46 PM

What about USS LOVE. It could travel between earth and risa.

Or

USS Amsterdam. Leaving long smoke trails.

USS Triumphant · June 1 2009, 11:17 PM

Edinburgh wrote:

Could you have a USS Bismarck.

My understanding is that Otto von Bismarck was actually a pretty decent guy as far as statesmen and politicians go. The fact that the Germans happened to have a ship named after him during the Nazi rule is no reflection on him, any more than it would be a reflection on John F. Kennedy if fascists came to power in the U.S. and continued to use his name on CV-67.

Myasishchev · June 2 2009, 01:54 AM

^That's true, although his actions were an important cause of the two wars Prussia fought to see through the dream of German unification. Then again, JFK is in part responsible for the American involvement in Vietnam, widely regarded as a mistake today.

What about Bismarck's sister Tirpitz? All her namesake did was oversee the arms race between Britain and Germany that (in small part) helped lead to WWI and act as a vocal proponent of unrestricted submarine warfare, but he appeared to be a fundamentally okay guy, and definitely so by the standards of his time--he just wanted to protect his country and win the war. Decent memoir writer, as well.

But how must the denizens of the 24th century see either? Or John F. Kennedy, for that matter?

It's funny, we don't see any names from either the Kaiserliche Marine, the Deutsche Kriegsmarine, or the modern Deutsche Marine, but we see lots of names from the Royal Navy and Imperial Japanese Navy names (or for that matter USN names)--all of which enforced policies surely as at odds to the far more enlightened Starfleet ethos. It's kind of strange that the UFP Starfleet decided to memorialize what to them must be the instrumentality of imperialism, militarism, and ultimately much human suffering. How many people starved on account of the Royal Navy's existence in World War I? How many died on account of the Imperial Japanese Navy's ability to transport troops in World War II? How many people were hurt by the names Bellerophon and Yamato?

I guess the idea is that all such divisions have been reconciled within United Earth and later the United Federation of Planets, but it's almost like the USN naming our newest CV the U.S.S. Jefferson Davis.

USS Triumphant · June 2 2009, 02:16 AM

Myasishchev wrote:

It's kind of strange that the UFP Starfleet decided to memorialize what to them must be the instrumentality of imperialism, militarism, and ultimately much human suffering.

Maybe it's more about the traditions of the ships themselves than the actual governments they came from?

roguephoenix · June 2 2009, 02:43 AM

James Wright wrote:

Roguephoenix, what happened to the Nebula class Phoenix, if it's no longer in service your Phoenix could replace it?
Self repairing sounds like Borg tech!

James

lol i don't know. wherever it is it's not good enough lol. i want a romulan design (because they make them "bird-like") and since it is experimental, it does use some borg tech. and yes, with the destruction of their world(s), some romulans should join starfleet.

Mr. Laser Beam · June 2 2009, 06:01 AM

USS Starhawk (anyone else remember that really old video game?

)

Vulcan: VSS T'Exeira

Oh, what the hell, why not run with that:

USS Jeter
USS Ripken
USS Swisher
USS Damon

Bones · June 2 2009, 06:47 AM

Edinburgh wrote:

Could you have a USS Bismarck.

IIRC, USS Bismarck is one of the names assigned to a Sovereign class in Birth of the Federation.

I'd have USS Bones.

LLAP · June 2 2009, 07:13 AM

The USS Bitchslapyouindaface. Either that or the USS Awesome. Which would actually be quite a good Starfleet name

LLAP · June 2 2009, 07:14 AM

In a more serious note the USS Excalibur - now that is a cool name for ship.

Anji · June 2 2009, 06:19 PM

U.S.S. Chandler-Shields.

No historical references here, just named after an old boyfriend.

Islander · June 2 2009, 07:10 PM

Anji wrote:

U.S.S. Chandler-Shields.

No historical references here, just named after an old boyfriend.

Did he had a really big nacelle?

Kirk's_Tights · June 2 2009, 08:22 PM

USS Stephen Gregory Yzerman.

....because a player that awesome gets his own ship.

FredH · June 3 2009, 12:07 AM

SS Lirazel -- long-range private yacht
USS Advocate -- exploratory science vessel
USS Windfall -- Sovereign-class

June 1 2009, 09:44 PM	#62
John Clark Commodore Location: MacLaren's Bar	Re: Name your ship! Either the Normandy (too much playing a certain computer game) or Agincourt __________________ If there's a justification for my actions right now, it's this: I have gone completely mad

June 1 2009, 10:46 PM	#63
Edinburgh Lieutenant Location: Scotland	Re: Name your ship! What about USS LOVE. It could travel between earth and risa. Or USS Amsterdam. Leaving long smoke trails.

June 2 2009, 01:54 AM	#65
Myasishchev Rear Admiral Location: America after the rain	Re: Name your ship! ^That's true, although his actions were an important cause of the two wars Prussia fought to see through the dream of German unification. Then again, JFK is in part responsible for the American involvement in Vietnam, widely regarded as a mistake today. What about Bismarck's sister Tirpitz? All her namesake did was oversee the arms race between Britain and Germany that (in small part) helped lead to WWI and act as a vocal proponent of unrestricted submarine warfare, but he appeared to be a fundamentally okay guy, and definitely so by the standards of his time--he just wanted to protect his country and win the war. Decent memoir writer, as well. But how must the denizens of the 24th century see either? Or John F. Kennedy, for that matter? It's funny, we don't see any names from either the Kaiserliche Marine, the Deutsche Kriegsmarine, or the modern Deutsche Marine, but we see lots of names from the Royal Navy and Imperial Japanese Navy names (or for that matter USN names)--all of which enforced policies surely as at odds to the far more enlightened Starfleet ethos. It's kind of strange that the UFP Starfleet decided to memorialize what to them must be the instrumentality of imperialism, militarism, and ultimately much human suffering. How many people starved on account of the Royal Navy's existence in World War I? How many died on account of the Imperial Japanese Navy's ability to transport troops in World War II? How many people were hurt by the names Bellerophon and Yamato? I guess the idea is that all such divisions have been reconciled within United Earth and later the United Federation of Planets, but it's almost like the USN naming our newest CV the U.S.S. Jefferson Davis. __________________

June 2 2009, 06:01 AM	#68
Mr. Laser Beam Fleet Admiral Location: The visitor's bullpen	Re: Name your ship! USS Starhawk (anyone else remember that really old video game? ) Vulcan: VSS T'Exeira Oh, what the hell, why not run with that: USS Jeter USS Ripken USS Swisher USS Damon __________________ It is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion. It is by the beans of Java that thoughts acquire speed, the hands acquire shakes, the shakes become a warning. It is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion.

June 2 2009, 07:13 AM	#70
LLAP Lieutenant Commander Location: Sector 001	Re: Name your ship! The USS Bitchslapyouindaface. Either that or the USS Awesome. Which would actually be quite a good Starfleet name __________________ Shatner's Bassoon: Area within your brain that defines time perception. Can be affected by so called 'Made up drugs' such as 'Cake'; a Visterbile Amphetamoid from Prague.

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June 2 2009, 07:14 AM	#71
LLAP Lieutenant Commander Location: Sector 001	Re: Name your ship! In a more serious note the USS Excalibur - now that is a cool name for ship. __________________ Shatner's Bassoon: Area within your brain that defines time perception. Can be affected by so called 'Made up drugs' such as 'Cake'; a Visterbile Amphetamoid from Prague.

June 2 2009, 06:19 PM	#72
Anji Rear Admiral Location: Assisting in the birth of baby Horta on Janus VI	Re: Name your ship! U.S.S. Chandler-Shields. No historical references here, just named after an old boyfriend.

June 2 2009, 08:22 PM	#74
Kirk's_Tights Fleet Captain Location: Hugh Jackman's pants	Re: Name your ship! USS Stephen Gregory Yzerman. ....because a player that awesome gets his own ship. __________________ Краще, ніж ви. http://www.last.fm/user/LadyZeppelinX

June 3 2009, 12:07 AM	#75
FredH Captain	Re: Name your ship! SS Lirazel -- long-range private yacht USS Advocate -- exploratory science vessel USS Windfall -- Sovereign-class