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Old May 30 2009, 12:13 AM   #1
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EP: Ethics a what if

What if in the episode Ethics Worf had died?
What do you think of this outcome
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Old May 30 2009, 01:49 AM   #2
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If Worf had DIED it would have opened up a new plot arc for Deanna and given her something major to do raise Alexander a purpose
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Old May 30 2009, 01:51 AM   #3
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I would have loved Deep Space Nine even more!
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Old May 30 2009, 02:30 AM   #4
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technically he did.


had worf died for real it would be positive in my book. i'm not too keen on klingons.
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Old May 30 2009, 03:28 AM   #5
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Re: EP: Ethics a what if

roguephoenix wrote: View Post
technically he did.


had worf died for real it would be positive in my book. i'm not too keen on klingons.


Okay stayed DEAD as in PERMANENT
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Old May 30 2009, 04:23 AM   #6
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Is that the one with the spinal operation? It's been a while since I watched TNG.

In that episode, Crusher was right to tell the other quack off. THe second doctor was lucky that her unproven, untested procedure didn't leave Worf dead for real. The ends do not justify the means. Had that been a human/Betazoid/Vulcan/Xenexian patient without "redundant" internal organs, she would have just signed their death warrent for the sake of testing her unproven experimental theory.

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Old May 30 2009, 05:04 AM   #7
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Its hard to seriously discuss such a dumb episode. Worf is too human to want to kill himself over an injury. Klingons don't have multiple organs. They always die as easily as anyone else. And the fight between mary sue Bev Crusher and the other doctor was often more silly than seriously thoughtful. But all and all I wouldn't have cared if Worf died, especially that late in the series.
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Old May 30 2009, 05:10 AM   #8
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Plus the quacki dr should have been brought up before the Medical Disciplinary Board and deregistered for her unethical behaviour. Malpractice at the very least.
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Old May 30 2009, 08:06 AM   #9
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Klingons don't have multiple organs.
Um yes they do. It's called the brak'lul. Klingons possess two livers, an eight-chambered heart, 23 ribs, two stomachs and a double-lined neural pia mater.
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Old May 30 2009, 08:09 AM   #10
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Klingons don't have multiple organs.
Um yes they do. It's called the brak'lul. Klingons possess two livers, an eight-chambered heart, 23 ribs, two stomachs and a double-lined neural pia mater.

So the quack was just lucky that Worf didn't die.
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Old May 30 2009, 05:16 PM   #11
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Klingons don't have multiple organs.
Um yes they do. It's called the brak'lul. Klingons possess two livers, an eight-chambered heart, 23 ribs, two stomachs and a double-lined neural pia mater.
Yeah! They're invincible! Come on man, that's such a bad fanboyish retcon after seeing so man klingons bite it from simple wounds. Just look at Star Trek VI and the "one shot one kill" scenes. I'm not debating that this episode said Klingons have redundancies, I'm saying its dumb and contradicts everything before it.
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Old May 30 2009, 10:10 PM   #12
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Klingons don't have multiple organs.
Um yes they do. It's called the brak'lul. Klingons possess two livers, an eight-chambered heart, 23 ribs, two stomachs and a double-lined neural pia mater.
Yeah! They're invincible! Come on man, that's such a bad fanboyish retcon after seeing so man klingons bite it from simple wounds. Just look at Star Trek VI and the "one shot one kill" scenes. I'm not debating that this episode said Klingons have redundancies, I'm saying its dumb and contradicts everything before it.
When haven't they contradicted themselves? Just look at Voyager and Janeway's backstory. Klingon blood goes from pink to red. The Klingon Homeworld will be dead in 50 years (TUC) yet is still around in the TNG timeframe.

In short it comes from an episode so it's real (unless Roddenberry or TPTB said it isn't and they haven't).
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Old May 30 2009, 10:58 PM   #13
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The only reason they made Klingon blood pink in ST:VI was to ensure it received a PG rating, thereby enabling it to reach a wider audience and earn a bigger profit.
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Old May 30 2009, 11:12 PM   #14
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^ Yep, they were worried about the MPAA.
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Old May 31 2009, 02:57 AM   #15
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Klingons still only have one brain and one heart (albeit, an eight-chambered one). A shot through one of these causes the same "problems" as in other species.

I assume the "brak'lul" just helps with how strong they are (we already knew that) and helps them live longer (like Kor), because they don't have to worry so much about things like liver failure or kidney disease when they have the backups. They evolved from the Proto-Worf seen in Genesis, so it makes sense that they maintained some of that "invulnerability."
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