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Old May 23 2009, 08:16 PM   #1426
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Apologies for dragging this up again days too late in the Voyager forum, but I finally managed to see it last night and

I NEED TO SHOUT ABOUT IT - IT'S FANTASTIC!!

I'm still on a high today after seeing Trek on the big screen again. Loved it, loved it, loved it


Yeah, that's the initial sugar rush. You'll hate it in a week!
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Old May 23 2009, 08:31 PM   #1427
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Yeah, that's the initial sugar rush. You'll hate it in a week!
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Old May 23 2009, 08:41 PM   #1428
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Heh heh
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Old May 23 2009, 08:59 PM   #1429
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Well since we are discussing the film I'll throw my two cents into the mix
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Old May 23 2009, 10:47 PM   #1430
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Personally I would reverse the ratings for "Concerning Flight" and "Mortal Coil". Sure, the use of holograms on Trek in general has always been problematic but those issues pale in comparison with Seven's magic nanoprobes bringing people back from the dead. Hello!?

Besides, it was fun to see Janeway and Tuvok get off the ship for a change.
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Old May 24 2009, 02:13 AM   #1431
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I half wonder if it was initially pitched as a Chakotay story, but was changed for fear of offending Native American beliefs. I've got nothing to back that up with, but it would explain why Neelix's faith seemed to come out of the blue swirly vortex.
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Chakotay would have made more sense, but I can't see him being driven to suicide over it. I can believe that Neelix was a dark soul who overcompensated by being overly cheery, but sometimes the writers completely forgot the dark soul part and only remembered the annoying part.
You know, I started to say the same things - but weren't Chakotay's beliefs already examined in "Tattoo" when he met the Sky Spirit aliens in person? I don't think it would have really worked with him in that regard. Been there, done that.
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Old May 24 2009, 03:51 AM   #1432
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Let's not talk about the film in here, it just gets everyone off track. I just saw it for the second time and liked it more than I did the first, it was a great film..but let's stick to slagging off Voyager.
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Old May 24 2009, 05:41 AM   #1433
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In regards to the nanoprobe reviving, I can see how the producers would've found it tiresome for every dead person to have their potential lifespan extended by a few hours (up to 70 according to 7) before they could truly be declared dead. It's a lot like having to invent technobabble to explain why quickfix solutions like transporting or comms systems cannot be used to deal with a specific problem.

Though more likely, the producers didn't really care about the future consequences of this technology because they wrote the show to be mostly episodic.
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Old May 24 2009, 11:19 AM   #1434
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Maybe it only worked on Talaxians - there's a few suggestions that they are very hardy folk, so perhaps the brain can survive longer than a human's.
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Old May 24 2009, 03:21 PM   #1435
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Old May 24 2009, 04:40 PM   #1436
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You know though, from the Borg point of view, those nanoprobes make a lot of sense. The shock of assimilation could actually result in the deaths of huge amounts of potential drones but for that particular nanoprobe.

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Old May 24 2009, 09:00 PM   #1437
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Waking Moments (*½)

Once again we have a group of aliens who want to kill the crew of Voyager for some reason. The episode suggests at one point that they might be doing it to protect themselves from invaders, but later in the episode we find out that their planet is well hidden and can only be found because of the fact that they are sending the magic sleeping beam to Voyager. That's not the smartest tactic for a group of isolationists, they may as well put up a sign telling people where to find them.

The first part of the episode is interesting and somewhat fun, and there is some good scenes such as Tuvok trying not to talk about his naked dream, but once the aliens turn evil the show becomes very generic. There is a lot of potential at the beginning of the episode and it is a big pity that the second half becomes so uninteresting.

And it could have been done on TNG.
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Old May 24 2009, 09:06 PM   #1438
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Ah, yes, "Waking Moments."

Zzzzzz...
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Old May 24 2009, 09:23 PM   #1439
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I'd give Waking Moments 3 stars.

I enjoyed it. It was a fun alien of the week, high concept episode with some nice imagery and twist here or there. I also enjoyed the crew working together leading to some interaction that we rarely saw in the show.

I also think this was the episode where B'elanna's engineering smock debuted. I liked it.
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Old May 24 2009, 09:29 PM   #1440
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Oh yeah, Roxann's pregnancy jacket.
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