Your definition of a real 'Trekkie'? - Page 3

Admiral Buzzkill · May 21 2009, 06:14 PM

God knows, anyone who's willing to call themselves a "trekkie" is welcome to the club (such as it is)...

Hambone · May 21 2009, 06:53 PM

I decided a long time ago that the difference between a "Trekkie" and a Star Trek fan is this: a Trekkie allows Star Trek to "leak out" into his/her real life, blurring the line between fact and fantasy. If you watch the show, buy the DVDs or the occasional book or toy, you're a fan; if you wear a Starfleet uniform to work, speak Klingon regularly, or flash the Vulcan salute to stangers, you're probably a Trekkie.

Colonel Green · May 21 2009, 06:57 PM

^ I consider myself a trekkie, but I do not own a uniform, attend cons or speak Klingon.

That said, I DID once make a 2hr detour to visit Vulcan, Alberta...

ChristopherPike · May 21 2009, 07:05 PM

Colonel Green wrote:

That said, I DID once make a 2hr detour to visit Vulcan, Alberta...

Now we understand why it's other namesake got turned down, when they asked if they could host the premiere!

I wonder if a black hole has subsequently removed it from any map.

Tentacle · May 21 2009, 10:30 PM

explodingmuffin wrote:

Thanks for all your input. I wish I could be as chill about this as you guys are, and I know that this is such a trivial thing to get so worked up over, but it bothers me regardless.

I'll try listing some reasons why these people bother me so much, maybe you can tell me where I'm wrong?

- They don't know what it's like to be called a nerd or geek and teased for liking Star Trek because it's more popular now.
- Star Trek fans are usually more free-thinkers (at least as far as the ones I've encountered go) and these people...are mostly the follow-the-trends-of-society kind of people.
- There are a lot of slobbery teenage fangirls (usually for anime) at my school. Many of these people are the ones I'm so annoyed with.
- This new movie doesn't even actually follow the timeline and is more like Star Wars than Star Trek, in my opinion. I like it a lot, but it's really very different from the rest of the Trek universe.
- I seem to attract these kinds of people for some reason. They didn't bother me at first, it just that I keep encountering them.
- I kind of had a problem with other teenage Trek fans before the movie, and now the population has exploded.

Hm. I'll bet most of these people lose interest when they either start trying to watch the series and realize it's not as exciting as the movie, or when the next big summer movie comes out. I think that is part of the reason too though - they're claiming to be Trekkies when they probably won't even care about it in a few months. I know I need to just ride this out, but I'm easily annoyed by other people in general, and other people are hard to ignore when there's 6 billion of them on the planet.

I know how you feel, I've been thinking about this question ever since I saw the new movie.

It annoys me that the bullies that tormented me for being nerdy and liked star trek in my youth are now all fans of trek.

I do believe its those loyal fans that endured the ridicules, kept trek alive long enough to have this "cooler" new version made for the masses. And now star trek is cool, those old loyal fans are being ridiculed again for being too nerdy and trying to hold on to the old school trek.

For those new fans that like the movie and now call themself fans, this is only a pass fad for them. Most of them will not stay.

I believe for those that claim to be hardcore fans, "trekkies" as they call themselfs. They certainly do know their cannon and all that. But they never did buy into the grander ideals of trek. That is why it is so easy for them to like this new movie. Those fans in my opinion liked trek for all the cosmetic reasons, and not the heart and soul of it.

Islander · May 21 2009, 10:30 PM

ChristopherPike wrote:

Colonel Green wrote:

That said, I DID once make a 2hr detour to visit Vulcan, Alberta...

Now we understand why it's other namesake got turned down, when they asked if they could host the premiere!

I wonder if a black hole has subsequently removed it from any map.

The fact that they don't even have a movie theater was probably more an issue in this case!

I did see an interview of Leonard Nimoy on Space about the movie and this came up. He himself made some calls to arrange for about 200 resident of Vulcan to go see the premiere in Calgary.

Just shows how nice he is. And he's not even Canadian unlike that other trek guy...

Just kidding obviously but how Shatner ever got a university pavillon named in his honor is beyond my understanding.

AxelFoley · May 22 2009, 04:01 AM

Thank God this didn't turn into a retarded Trekkie Vs Trekker debate:

A Trekkie to me, is a fan of the show, a big fan, not a casual one. That of course, doesn't mean that every Trekkie is such a big fan that they go to Trek conventions, dress up in uniforms etc. Like previously mentioned, there are degrees. Trekker doesn't exist in my eyes, it's just something that was made up because the name Trekkies had been ridiculed too much. Pussies.

Tentacle · May 22 2009, 04:14 AM

well since the début of this movie all trekkies can come out f the closet now.

Because this movie is so cool, there is no longer a need to be ridiculed anymore.
Lets all jump for joy...

oh wait not unless you cant stomach the dumbness of this movie then you are back into being an social outcast once again...
So from now on I'll call these outcasts trekkies as how a social outcast should be called.

Admiral Buzzkill · May 22 2009, 05:06 AM

Tentacle wrote:

oh wait not unless you cant stomach the dumbness of this movie then you are back into being an social outcast once again...
So from now on I'll call these outcasts trekkies as how a social outcast should be called.

Sorry, I'm a trekkie and I like the movie so we can't call them that.

I'll call them something else.

Tentacle · May 22 2009, 05:15 AM

You shall not take the stigma away from the word.

Geckothan · May 22 2009, 05:43 AM

Triskelion wrote:

Am I a fan, or a Trekkie?

Good question! Well this difficult question inspired me to write a little quiz to help people find out.

The Trekkie Temperament Sorter:

11-16 Correct:
You are a Trekkie! Congratulations would be given, but none are required. You are already too cool for internet social affirmation. So crack open a bottle of Aldeberran whisky and a plate of Racht, pop in your favorite Trek DVD and live the life of the righteous!

I wouldn't consider myself a trekkie, more like a slightly-more-enthusiastic-than-average fan with way too much free time to read forums and watch DVDs. I've never even been to a convention

Gep Malakai · May 22 2009, 05:46 AM

Geckothan wrote:

I wouldn't consider myself a trekkie...

And yet, you're posting on a Star Trek message board to debate the merits of the Trekkie/Trekker/casual fan labels.

Welcome to the club.

Geckothan · May 22 2009, 05:52 AM

Maybe I should stop denying it and embrace my inner trekkie

Tentacle · May 22 2009, 05:53 AM

ohhh i took that test and here is what i got

11-16 Correct:
You are a Trekkie! Congratulations would be given, but none are required. You are already too cool for internet social affirmation. So crack open a bottle of Aldeberran whisky and a plate of Racht, pop in your favorite Trek DVD and live the life of the righteous!

But then I ask the question, is star trek merely trivia or cannon to you?
If so you have sadly miss the point.

Admiral Buzzkill · May 22 2009, 05:57 AM

Tentacle wrote:

You shall not take the stigma away from the word.

Sure I can.

May 21 2009, 06:14 PM	#31
Admiral Buzzkill The Man Location: Defying Gravity	Re: Your definition of a real 'Trekkie'? God knows, anyone who's willing to call themselves a "trekkie" is welcome to the club (such as it is)... __________________ I had steak and a loaded baked potato for dinner on Sunday. As a steak I enjoyed it a lot, but as macaroni and cheese I thought it was disappointing.

May 21 2009, 06:53 PM	#32
Hambone Fleet Captain Location: Land of cheese, sausage and beer	Re: Your definition of a real 'Trekkie'? I decided a long time ago that the difference between a "Trekkie" and a Star Trek fan is this: a Trekkie allows Star Trek to "leak out" into his/her real life, blurring the line between fact and fantasy. If you watch the show, buy the DVDs or the occasional book or toy, you're a fan; if you wear a Starfleet uniform to work, speak Klingon regularly, or flash the Vulcan salute to stangers, you're probably a Trekkie. __________________ Get a haircut, hippie.

May 21 2009, 06:57 PM	#33
Colonel Green Vice Admiral Location: Excalbia, BC	Re: Your definition of a real 'Trekkie'? ^ I consider myself a trekkie, but I do not own a uniform, attend cons or speak Klingon. That said, I DID once make a 2hr detour to visit Vulcan, Alberta... __________________ “By mutual confidence and mutual aid - great deeds are done, and great discoveries made.” - Homer

May 22 2009, 04:01 AM	#37
AxelFoley Commander	Re: Your definition of a real 'Trekkie'? Thank God this didn't turn into a retarded Trekkie Vs Trekker debate: A Trekkie to me, is a fan of the show, a big fan, not a casual one. That of course, doesn't mean that every Trekkie is such a big fan that they go to Trek conventions, dress up in uniforms etc. Like previously mentioned, there are degrees. Trekker doesn't exist in my eyes, it's just something that was made up because the name Trekkies had been ridiculed too much. Pussies. __________________ Captain Robau is a pussy

May 22 2009, 04:14 AM	#38
Tentacle Lieutenant Commander	Re: Your definition of a real 'Trekkie'? well since the début of this movie all trekkies can come out f the closet now. Because this movie is so cool, there is no longer a need to be ridiculed anymore. Lets all jump for joy... oh wait not unless you cant stomach the dumbness of this movie then you are back into being an social outcast once again... So from now on I'll call these outcasts trekkies as how a social outcast should be called.

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May 22 2009, 05:15 AM	#40
Tentacle Lieutenant Commander	Re: Your definition of a real 'Trekkie'? You shall not take the stigma away from the word.

May 22 2009, 05:52 AM	#43
Geckothan Fleet Captain Location: People's Republic of Britainistan	Re: Your definition of a real 'Trekkie'? Maybe I should stop denying it and embrace my inner trekkie __________________ You're a classic example of the inverse ratio between the size of the mouth and the size of the brain. RIP Star Trek 1964-1999

May 22 2009, 05:53 AM	#44
Tentacle Lieutenant Commander	Re: Your definition of a real 'Trekkie'? ohhh i took that test and here is what i got 11-16 Correct: You are a Trekkie! Congratulations would be given, but none are required. You are already too cool for internet social affirmation. So crack open a bottle of Aldeberran whisky and a plate of Racht, pop in your favorite Trek DVD and live the life of the righteous! But then I ask the question, is star trek merely trivia or cannon to you? If so you have sadly miss the point.