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Star Trek Movies XI+ Discuss J.J. Abrams' rebooted Star Trek here.

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Excellent 706 62.70%
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Average 84 7.46%
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Poor 77 6.84%
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Old May 18 2009, 09:04 PM   #1921
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Re: The Official STAR TREK Grading & Discussion Thread [SPOILERS]

Sadly, there are few if any good sci-fi shows on anymore. I figure if the movie was successful in gathering a new generation of fans, perhaps a new series would be a refreshing change to what mostly dominates tv now, crime shows and reality shows ect.

Sometimes you can capture lightning in a bottle when you least expect it, kinda like when they didnt expect TNG to get off the ground for more than a season or two, and we got 7 and two more spin-off shows to boot (3 if you count Enterprise.)

I have my fingers crossed....
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Old May 18 2009, 10:38 PM   #1922
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You know, at first I was bothered by the changes they made in the timeline, etc. but maybe you're right. Its the passing of the torch. They're doing the same thing they did when it was time to move onto TNG. It was hard but eventually we grew used to it and even began to enjoy it. The only thing I can truly say I dont like has to do with the new Spock. They have to keep him from sounding like one of the Cone Heads from the old Saturday Night Lives. Not in the sound of his voice but in what he says.
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Old May 19 2009, 03:31 AM   #1923
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The changes in Spock are the more interesting for me because he has always been my fav character. In TOS he was ashamed of his human origins ("Naked Time") and it took him decades to accept this heritage and live with it. NuSpock* isn't ashamed of his human side and it's obvious even as a kid. There's a "I love my human mother" factor that didn't seem to be enough in TOS for Prime Spock to be more acknowledging of his human side when he was young. You can see that again with the Vulcan council "fuck off" scene.
It becomes even more interesting when Sarek's attitude, which was previously close to Prime Sarek's, changes after Vulcan's destruction and Amanda's death. I would have never dreamed to hear him say to Spock that he's glad he's got him (widly paraphrasing here, bad memory and movie dubbed in French) and that he married Amanda because he loved her (that scene is wonderful). He even encourages Spock to use his emotions! That is going to change Spock a great deal and it can already be seen in the transporter room with Uhura (it took me 3 viewings to understand and accept that scene).
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actually to me both are grounded in tos.

while spock had yes issues dealing with his human half he also was very loyal to his mother even though he wasnt talking to his father like a father for a long time we do know spock had gone back home to see his mother.

and frankly the scene with young spock is pretty close to one we see in yesteryear..

were young spock dosnt respond to the taunts of the vulcan children until..
Your father brought shame to Vulcan. He married a human.
that is when young spock tried to attack them.

as for sarek .. well go and watch the end of journey to babel sometimes.
i wasnt suprised at all by sarek's admission after that.

really the casting of sarek was one of the few i think they miscast.
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Old May 19 2009, 03:39 AM   #1924
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Wow, my account still works

This movie is the shot in the arm that Star Trek has needed for about 10 years now. I saw it last night and thoroughly enjoyed it. This movie takes the risks that Star Trek has for too long refused to take; refused to resort to the reset button; gives us a great cast to move forward with; and is just plain damn fun to watch. The "send off", so to speak, from Leonard Nimoy is the icing on the cake; a wonderful final appearance.

An "Excellent" vote from me, no qualifications. More, please!
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Old May 19 2009, 05:22 AM   #1925
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As of this morning on Rotten Tomatoes.com:






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Old May 19 2009, 05:33 AM   #1926
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As of this morning on Rotten Tomatoes.com:






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Old May 19 2009, 06:42 AM   #1927
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really the casting of sarek was one of the few i think they miscast.
Agreed. I thought Cross was awful, but to each their own.
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Old May 19 2009, 09:37 AM   #1928
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and frankly the scene with young spock is pretty close to one we see in yesteryear..

were young spock dosnt respond to the taunts of the vulcan children until..
Your father brought shame to Vulcan. He married a human.
that is when young spock tried to attack them.
"Yesteryear" is part of the animated series, right? I hadn't heard about it until last week when I started to read posts here.
That's neat that they sort of included a bit of it in the movie.

As for "Journey to Babel", I can't wait to rewatch it once I have the third season DVDs. I haven't watched it in 20 years and I remember it was one of my fav episodes.
That's why I've hesitated a bit before posting something concerning TOS: my memories of events are somewhat hazy and I often check facts before posting. But you can't check the feelings you had watching an episode on a website.
Thanks for enlighting me, I had a memory of a colder Sarek (esp. from "Journey to Babel") and just couldn't picture him having that attitude with Spock in TOS.
Btw, I had the nice surprise to see Mark Lenard playing a Romulan Commander in "Balance of Terror" Yep, that's how far I am in the re-watching of the show
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Old May 19 2009, 12:57 PM   #1929
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Journey To Babel is second season, not third, so you'll get to it sooner than expected.

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Old May 19 2009, 01:25 PM   #1930
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I liked it alot the first time. I just saw it a second time and it was MUCH BETTER. I highly recommend a second viewing for anyone on the fence about the film. It gets better on repeated viewings.
My experience is completely opposite from yours. I watched it twice and after the second time my opinion of it went from "above average" to "meh".
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Old May 19 2009, 01:38 PM   #1931
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sarek appears very cold when he first comes aboard the ship in babel.
but later he has a very tender scene with amanda while they are alone.
though my favorite is the one at the end after his surgery.
while he dosnt say it out loud it is pretty clear the reason he loved amanda
was indeed because he loved her.

cross just wasnt able to do what lenard was able to do..
convey his feelings through his eyes while still evoking a passive vulcan manner otherwise.

sarek and amanda
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Old May 19 2009, 03:01 PM   #1932
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Old May 19 2009, 03:58 PM   #1933
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I haven't posted here in years. But this movie has brought me back. I was very impressed with the casting , the set designs, the costumes. The directing was also good. The story itself, not so much, but as a whole I was very satisfied. I hope to see more of this cast. Too bad they can't do a new series with them . . . or can they??
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Old May 19 2009, 04:44 PM   #1934
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Agreed. I thought Cross was awful, but to each their own.
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I feel the need to celebrate the success of TREK with all the women of TREK BBS...green paint optional
I say green paint essential

I've been keeping an eye on the reviews in other forums I visit and it's positive from all angles. Only one negative review... and that guy hates everything.
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