USS Kelvin scene Mistake?

Ner0 · May 17 2009, 06:54 PM

Just saw the movie and thought it was great but I saw a mistake in the film I don't think has been pointed out yet. (If it has, I apologize). Not a *major* mistake but I thought it was funny...

Now, isn't the Kelvins shuttlebay on the top of the ship?... ABOVE the bridge... not below? So why when we see Captain Robau enter the turbolift to go there after putting Kirk in charge go DOWN instead of UP?

Im guessing just a goof?

Kpnuts · May 17 2009, 06:57 PM

Hmmm, well spotted. Probably a goof.

I suppose he could have had to go down a bit, once the first turbolift sent him to the very top of the ship.

RoJoHen · May 17 2009, 06:58 PM

Well, we do also see him walking up stairs after he exits the turbolift. Maybe he had to go down in order to get to those stairs.

Jax · May 17 2009, 07:08 PM

Cannon Violation

FLOP

Phily B · May 17 2009, 07:15 PM

I thought this was gonna be about the registery being NCC-0514

Hyperspace05 · May 17 2009, 07:23 PM

I noticed that too - but then I remembered that turbolift passages aren't usually straight line-to-line in ships.
I don't see a problem with the turbolift passage going up through the pylon to the top of the secondary hull, then towards the rear, and finally down into the shuttle bay.

Ner0 · May 17 2009, 07:30 PM

Hyperspace05,

Yeah that actually makes sense.. they wouldn't show the whole turbolift journey on screen.. just the last part.

ralph · May 17 2009, 08:04 PM

I didn´t see no badge in Robau when he was sitting in the captain's chair. Am I right?

All Seeing Eye · May 17 2009, 08:06 PM

The bridge is a dome on top of the saucer, in order to get to the shuttle bay the turbo lift would have to go down a bit into the actual saucer, travel horizontally and then up to the cargo bay.

Come on people, are we really saying we don't know this? after how many years of watching trek?
If a turbo lift went "up" from the bridge it would be getting jettisoned into space.

cooleddie74 · May 17 2009, 08:12 PM

A continuity goof, probably not knowing the final design and layout of the CGI Kelvin ship model. But nothing that can't be gotten around with a technical/turbolift explanation.

Ner0 · May 17 2009, 08:23 PM

Tachyon Shield wrote:

The bridge is a dome on top of the saucer, in order to get to the shuttle bay the turbo lift would have to go down a bit into the actual saucer, travel horizontally and then up to the cargo bay.

Come on people, are we really saying we don't know this? after how many years of watching trek?
If a turbo lift went "up" from the bridge it would be getting jettisoned into space.

Yeah, I know that... but the scene where he is going down he gets off the turbolift... which means he was going down at some point into the shuttlebay.. but Hyperspace05 made a good point. Im sure he went down from the bridge, then horizontal for a bit, up to the secondary hull and down at the end ending up in the shuttlebay... with just the last part of the journey being shown on-screen.

vice1986 · May 17 2009, 08:27 PM

One that I noticed was when he gives the order to fire phasers, you hear the sound of photon torpedoes!

cooleddie74 · May 17 2009, 08:28 PM

Unless that's how 2233-era phasers sound. But didn't BOTH phasers and torpedoes fire when Robau gave the orders to shoot back?

All Seeing Eye · May 17 2009, 08:32 PM

Ner0 wrote:

but Hyperspace05 made a good point. Im sure he went down from the bridge, then horizontal for a bit, up to the secondary hull and down at the end ending up in the shuttlebay... with just the last part of the journey being shown on-screen.

Well I would imagine cutting the turbolift journey to show him enter and exit the lift only whilst cutting out the middle part thankfully cuts out quite a few minutes of film time better spent showing more interesting things.

dave_R_treker · May 17 2009, 08:35 PM

cooleddie74 wrote:

Unless that's how 2233-era phasers sound. But didn't BOTH phasers and torpedoes fire when Robau gave the orders to shoot back?

The phasers fires where more of pulses and not streams.

May 17 2009, 06:54 PM	#1
Ner0 Ensign	USS Kelvin scene Mistake? Just saw the movie and thought it was great but I saw a mistake in the film I don't think has been pointed out yet. (If it has, I apologize). Not a major mistake but I thought it was funny... Now, isn't the Kelvins shuttlebay on the top of the ship?... ABOVE the bridge... not below? So why when we see Captain Robau enter the turbolift to go there after putting Kirk in charge go DOWN instead of UP? Im guessing just a goof?

May 17 2009, 06:57 PM	#2
Kpnuts Commodore Location: London	Re: USS Kelvin scene Mistake? Hmmm, well spotted. Probably a goof. I suppose he could have had to go down a bit, once the first turbolift sent him to the very top of the ship.

May 17 2009, 06:58 PM	#3
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May 17 2009, 07:15 PM	#5
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May 17 2009, 07:23 PM	#6
Hyperspace05 Commodore	Re: USS Kelvin scene Mistake? I noticed that too - but then I remembered that turbolift passages aren't usually straight line-to-line in ships. I don't see a problem with the turbolift passage going up through the pylon to the top of the secondary hull, then towards the rear, and finally down into the shuttle bay.

May 17 2009, 07:30 PM	#7
Ner0 Ensign	Re: USS Kelvin scene Mistake? Hyperspace05, Yeah that actually makes sense.. they wouldn't show the whole turbolift journey on screen.. just the last part.

May 17 2009, 08:04 PM	#8
ralph Commander Location: Brazil	Re: USS Kelvin scene Mistake? I didn´t see no badge in Robau when he was sitting in the captain's chair. Am I right?

May 17 2009, 08:06 PM	#9
All Seeing Eye Admiral Location: The Astral Light Realms	Re: USS Kelvin scene Mistake? The bridge is a dome on top of the saucer, in order to get to the shuttle bay the turbo lift would have to go down a bit into the actual saucer, travel horizontally and then up to the cargo bay. Come on people, are we really saying we don't know this? after how many years of watching trek? If a turbo lift went "up" from the bridge it would be getting jettisoned into space.

May 17 2009, 08:12 PM	#10
cooleddie74 Fleet Admiral Location: The Warped Sector of the Demented Quadrant	Re: USS Kelvin scene Mistake? A continuity goof, probably not knowing the final design and layout of the CGI Kelvin ship model. But nothing that can't be gotten around with a technical/turbolift explanation. __________________ This shirt is dry clean only. Which means it's dirty. -Mitch Hedberg

May 17 2009, 08:27 PM	#12
vice1986 Lieutenant Junior Grade Location: Airdrie Alberta	Re: USS Kelvin scene Mistake? One that I noticed was when he gives the order to fire phasers, you hear the sound of photon torpedoes!

May 17 2009, 08:28 PM	#13
cooleddie74 Fleet Admiral Location: The Warped Sector of the Demented Quadrant	Re: USS Kelvin scene Mistake? Unless that's how 2233-era phasers sound. But didn't BOTH phasers and torpedoes fire when Robau gave the orders to shoot back? __________________ This shirt is dry clean only. Which means it's dirty. -Mitch Hedberg