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Star Trek Movies XI+ Discuss J.J. Abrams' rebooted Star Trek here.

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Old May 17 2009, 02:34 AM   #1846
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Re: The Official STAR TREK Grading & Discussion Thread [SPOILERS]

Benefit of all of my friends knowing I'm a Trekkie? All of my non-Trek fans are asking me to go with them. I have my third showing tonight, a potential fourth showing tomorrow, and at least one more some point after that. This is the single most I've ever seen one movie in the theaters. And I'm loving every minute of it.
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Old May 17 2009, 02:39 AM   #1847
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To all those that are calling the movie dumb, what trek movie isn't dumb in some way to you then? Going by the standards many seem to be holding Star Trek to I can't see how they like any Trek movies.



And Neopeius it is nowhere near as low brow as you are implying it to be.
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Old May 17 2009, 02:40 AM   #1848
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You reduce any scene of any movie to that simple and stupid of terms, and yeah it's gonna sound pretty bad.
I just call it as I see it. Why couldn't GIANT SHIP squash the little, slow shuttlecraft? Why couldn't GIANT SHIP destroy the Kelvin before it hit. And if the answer is that it didn't matter if the Kelvin hit or not, why couldn't the GIANT SHIP squash the little, slow shuttlecraft?

And Captain Robau, genius that he is, why didn't he order "WARP AWAY" before "ARM WEAPONS"?

For that matter, why didn't Pike?

Actually, I think I know the reason why. Federation ships in NuTrek can't actually *move*. This is why, after the six ships crewed by cadets (!) were destroyed, their hulks were all still in one damned place for the Enterprise to dodge around when it got out of hyperspace.

Stupid movie.
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Old May 17 2009, 02:43 AM   #1849
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To all those that are calling the movie dumb, what trek movie isn't dumb in some way to you then? Going by the standards many seem to be holding Star Trek to I can't see how they like any Trek movies.
As a rule, I don't much care for the other Trek movies either. I could draw a straight line through TWOK to NEM to NuTrek. Mistakes compounding on mistakes.


And Neopeius it is nowhere near as low brow as you are implying it to be.
I haven't implied anything. I've out and out said it's a dumb movie.
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Old May 17 2009, 02:51 AM   #1850
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You reduce any scene of any movie to that simple and stupid of terms, and yeah it's gonna sound pretty bad.
I just call it as I see it. Why couldn't GIANT SHIP squash the little, slow shuttlecraft? Why couldn't GIANT SHIP destroy the Kelvin before it hit. And if the answer is that it didn't matter if the Kelvin hit or not, why couldn't the GIANT SHIP squash the little, slow shuttlecraft?
Well from watching the movie it seems as if George Kirk was occupying the Narada while the shuttles made good their escape, hence that touching little scene between him and his wife with child, you saw that right? Also it seemed to me that the Kelvin was getting the snot blasted out of it as it was ramming the Narada, so yeah, what's the problem?

And Captain Robau, genius that he is, why didn't he order "WARP AWAY" before "ARM WEAPONS"?

For that matter, why didn't Pike?
Well when a ship appears out of nowhere and starts knocking your ship around, you might not have time to run away. The result would have been the same anyway, the Narada was much quicker ship than the Kelvin. So why complain. As for Pike, well he kind of had a mission and a planet at stake.
Actually, I think I know the reason why. Federation ships in NuTrek can't actually *move*. This is why, after the six ships crewed by cadets (!) were destroyed, their hulks were all still in one damned place for the Enterprise to dodge around when it got out of hyperspace.

Stupid movie.
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Old May 17 2009, 02:54 AM   #1851
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To all those that are calling the movie dumb, what trek movie isn't dumb in some way to you then? Going by the standards many seem to be holding Star Trek to I can't see how they like any Trek movies.
As a rule, I don't much care for the other Trek movies either. I could draw a straight line through TWOK to NEM to NuTrek. Mistakes compounding on mistakes.
So anything after TMP in other words is a crappy Trek movie? I'm amazed you even bothered watching any of the other movies then.


And Neopeius it is nowhere near as low brow as you are implying it to be.
I haven't implied anything. I've out and out said it's a dumb movie.
You are right about that, my apologies.
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Old May 17 2009, 03:13 AM   #1852
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the Narada was much quicker ship than the Kelvin. So why complain.
So why couldn't the Narada squash the shuttlecraft?
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Old May 17 2009, 03:14 AM   #1853
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So anything after TMP in other words is a crappy Trek movie? I'm amazed you even bothered watching any of the other movies then.
TVH was fun, if frivolous. FC was enjoyable largely because it took itself out of the Trek universe and had a really cool zero-g battle in it.

But on the whole, yeah, crappy movies. And TMP wasn't that good, either.
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Old May 17 2009, 03:14 AM   #1854
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maybe because it couldn't?
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Old May 17 2009, 03:27 AM   #1855
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So why couldn't the Narada squash the shuttlecraft?

The Kelvin provided cover for the launching shuttles by shooting down the Narada's torpedoes and then crippled the ship in a kamikaze run so the shuttles could make their escape. It's clearer on the big screen.


I've got my criticisms of the film, but I thought the opening sequence was fab.
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Old May 17 2009, 03:28 AM   #1856
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also, maybe the Narada was just overextended.

I swear, no pun intended.
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Old May 17 2009, 04:29 AM   #1857
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So why couldn't the Narada squash the shuttlecraft?

The Kelvin provided cover for the launching shuttles by shooting down the Narada's torpedoes and then crippled the ship in a kamikaze run so the shuttles could make their escape. It's clearer on the big screen.
So, the Narada was able to utterly mangle the Kelvin in a quick barrage.. yet for SIXTY SECONDS, it was unable to blow up a crippled ship moving at Mach... 0.5?

And then it couldn't just freaking run over the shuttlecraft which could be seen in the same frame as the Narada suggesting they were only a few miles apart?
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Old May 17 2009, 04:32 AM   #1858
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I just saw the movie again.

After the collision with the Kelvin, the Narada is listing and drifting clearly out of control, with a considerable debris cloud between it and the escaping shuttle fleet.

The writers have said that what got dropped from the movie is that the Narada is so severely damaged in this attack that the Klingons are able to capture its crew.
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Old May 17 2009, 05:22 AM   #1859
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Maybe Nero wanted the shuttlecraft to get away.

Who cares why?

Point is that George Kirk was a hero that saved many lives while sacrificing his own.

If anyone didn't get that after watching it, and then again after it was explained by Pike, then maybe it's the viewer that's stupid and not the movie.
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Old May 17 2009, 05:24 AM   #1860
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So this is what a thread some 1800 posts in looks like.
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