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Star Trek Movies XI+ Discuss J.J. Abrams' rebooted Star Trek here.

View Poll Results: Grade the movie...
Excellent 706 62.70%
Above Average 213 18.92%
Average 84 7.46%
Below Average 46 4.09%
Poor 77 6.84%
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Old May 16 2009, 07:28 PM   #1831
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Re: The Official STAR TREK Grading & Discussion Thread [SPOILERS]

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This, first and foremost, was a story of Kirk and Spock finding their own way, and in the process finding each other.
But only in the most shallow superficial way. I would argue the McCoy/Kirk friendship was many magnitudes better in its execution. How many scenes did we actually get between Kirk and Spock?
Oh yes, for sure. The "Kirk and Spock finding each other" was indeed minimal. The main character focus was on Kirk and Spock finding their own way.

Again, having kirk and Spock not knowing each other through most of the movie was great. I'm glad that was minimised. The journey was on a more personal level for both Kirk and Spock.

Now, the next movie can more fully explore the burgeoning relationship that is so famous. I''m looking forward to it. Especially since the new timeline can extinguish any preconceived expectations.

Even the Spock-McCoy relationship was barely hinted at. Again, wait till next movie!
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Old May 16 2009, 07:49 PM   #1832
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...this alternative universe bit is just a way for fans to reconcile, in their heads, the destruction of continuity and much of what they loved about the old series and spin offs. Perhaps people should simply face the facts and not go into this alternative universe stuff.
Umm...Continuity was not destroyed. It still exists.

We've just been introduced to another timeline.

Only the Narada and Spock's ship disappeared from the prime timeline. Their universe was not destroyed (although Romulus was). Their timeline/universe still exists.
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Old May 16 2009, 08:24 PM   #1833
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The Kelvin sequence
I enjoyed this, it provides an excellent introduction to the film.
It sure does! What a stinkburger.

GIANT SHIP: IM PWNING U!

Robau: Don't run away. Fire ineffectually.

GIANT SHIP: CAPTAIN! WHAT TIME IS IT?

Robau: 12:05 p.m.... *killed*

GIANT SHIP: ROFLMAO. IL PWN U SOME MOAR!~

Kirk: Run away! With shuttlecraft. God knows the GIANT SHIP can't kill those.

GIANT SHIP: I CANT PWN SHUTTLECRAFT!!!

KIRK: Now I'll ram the GIANT SHIP. It'll only take 60 seconds.

GIANT SHIP: I CANT PWN TEH KELVIN NE MOAR!!!!11 EVN THO ITS MOVING. VERY. SLOWLY. LIKE. IN. NEMESIS.

*boom*

Stupid movie.
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Old May 16 2009, 09:20 PM   #1834
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Anyone know if the great Keckler recapped this film yet? If so how about a link. Thanks
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Old May 16 2009, 10:16 PM   #1835
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Neopeius wrote: View Post
USS Fardell wrote: View Post
USS Fardell's brief review


The Kelvin sequence
I enjoyed this, it provides an excellent introduction to the film.
It sure does! What a stinkburger.

GIANT SHIP: IM PWNING U!

Robau: Don't run away. Fire ineffectually.

GIANT SHIP: CAPTAIN! WHAT TIME IS IT?

Robau: 12:05 p.m.... *killed*

GIANT SHIP: ROFLMAO. IL PWN U SOME MOAR!~

Kirk: Run away! With shuttlecraft. God knows the GIANT SHIP can't kill those.

GIANT SHIP: I CANT PWN SHUTTLECRAFT!!!

KIRK: Now I'll ram the GIANT SHIP. It'll only take 60 seconds.

GIANT SHIP: I CANT PWN TEH KELVIN NE MOAR!!!!11 EVN THO ITS MOVING. VERY. SLOWLY. LIKE. IN. NEMESIS.

*boom*

Stupid movie.
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Old May 16 2009, 10:26 PM   #1836
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Just saw it for the third time. It was even better than the first and second time combined! What a fantastic movie!
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Old May 16 2009, 11:54 PM   #1837
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I absolutely loved it. Sure, it wasn't perfect story-wise, but the rest was so awesome I don't fell a need to nitpick ... So, excellent from me.
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Old May 17 2009, 12:47 AM   #1838
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I just got home from seeing Angels & Demons, the cinema was busier than I've seen it in a long time, but more people seemed to be seeing Star Trek than A&D, Even saw a couple of showings were close to sold out.
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Old May 17 2009, 12:56 AM   #1839
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Stupid movie.
You disagree with the characterization or just the fact that I thought the movie was dumb?
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Old May 17 2009, 01:08 AM   #1840
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I liked it alot the first time. I just saw it a second time and it was MUCH BETTER. I highly recommend a second viewing for anyone on the fence about the film. It gets better on repeated viewings.
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Old May 17 2009, 01:09 AM   #1841
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I was stunned by how average the movie was.

Also, if they ever come up with another good Trek movie villain again, I'll be amazed. The last semi-decent one was Soran. Even he was just another "pissed off because he lost something" guy but without the now-obligatory "scary spaceship".

Ben Cross and Bruce Greenwood were good casting. Winona Ryder was a big *shrug*.

How could Vulcan be a black hole now and not suck Delta Vega in? Or am I missing something.

Old Spock should the crew cliff notes. Don't wake the sleepers on Botany Bay. Save some humpback whales or recreate them. Important stuff.

Nice effort. Mediocre movie.
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Old May 17 2009, 01:09 AM   #1842
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Re: The Official STAR TREK Grading & Discussion Thread [SPOILERS]

Neopeius wrote: View Post
USS Fardell wrote: View Post
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The Kelvin sequence
I enjoyed this, it provides an excellent introduction to the film.
It sure does! What a stinkburger.

GIANT SHIP: IM PWNING U!

Robau: Don't run away. Fire ineffectually.

GIANT SHIP: CAPTAIN! WHAT TIME IS IT?

Robau: 12:05 p.m.... *killed*

GIANT SHIP: ROFLMAO. IL PWN U SOME MOAR!~

Kirk: Run away! With shuttlecraft. God knows the GIANT SHIP can't kill those.

GIANT SHIP: I CANT PWN SHUTTLECRAFT!!!

KIRK: Now I'll ram the GIANT SHIP. It'll only take 60 seconds.

GIANT SHIP: I CANT PWN TEH KELVIN NE MOAR!!!!11 EVN THO ITS MOVING. VERY. SLOWLY. LIKE. IN. NEMESIS.

*boom*

Stupid movie.
You reduce any scene of any movie to that simple and stupid of terms, and yeah it's gonna sound pretty bad.
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Old May 17 2009, 01:25 AM   #1843
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You reduce any scene of any movie to that simple and stupid of terms, and yeah it's gonna sound pretty bad.
It does make it more satisfying to sit back and enjoy it knowing someone is frothing about not enjoying on the boards. Not sure why, perhaps knowing that you're not the one missing out on anything.
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Old May 17 2009, 01:44 AM   #1844
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Saw it last night and it was pure bliss
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Old May 17 2009, 02:09 AM   #1845
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I liked it alot the first time. I just saw it a second time and it was MUCH BETTER. I highly recommend a second viewing for anyone on the fence about the film. It gets better on repeated viewings.
Actually for me I had the opposite experience. The first time through everything was coming hard and fast at me that I really didn't see the number of problems but the second time through only served to heighten the issues I had the first time through.

If I could go back and change my initial rating I would lower it from Above Average to Average. Flashy effects and rapid pacing can cover up some sins but not when they are so pervasive and annoying.
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