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Old May 12 2009, 06:51 PM   #46
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Re: What of Cupcake?

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It will be revealed in the sequel.... The Vengeance of Cupcake.

Cupcake: I shall leave you as you left me, marooned for all eternity at the center of a frosty, tasty treat... baked alive. Baked alive.
Kirk: CUPCAKEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!
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Old May 12 2009, 06:54 PM   #47
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Re: Cupcake (spoilers)

Well isn't the stereotype that the Irish are all cops? Cupcake was in security.
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Old May 12 2009, 07:08 PM   #48
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Re: Cupcake (spoilers)

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Well isn't the stereotype that the Irish are all cops? Cupcake was in security.
Bald, carb-heavy security.
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Old May 15 2009, 03:01 AM   #49
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Re: Cupcake = Finnegan?

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The new altered timeline could have Finnegan's parents moving to the States and raising him there. Thus no Irish accent.
Would that qualify as a Finnegan begin again?

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Now, I might buy that the hitchiker Kirk passes on the Iowa road was spposed to be Finnegan. (His lankyness and overall look was Finnegan-esqe.)
The hitchhiker was Kirk's brother. You can just barely hear it when Kirk shouts his name as he passes in the car ("Sammy!").

As for Cupcake: God help him. That ain't gonna end well. Either Kirk's going to stick him in waste extraction so as to never have to deal with him again, or Cupcake (who surely still carries a grudge after all this time) will refuse one of Kirk's orders and will be kicked out of Starfleet.
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Old May 15 2009, 03:09 AM   #50
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The new altered timeline could have Finnegan's parents moving to the States and raising him there. Thus no Irish accent.
Would that qualify as a Finnegan begin again?

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Now, I might buy that the hitchiker Kirk passes on the Iowa road was spposed to be Finnegan. (His lankyness and overall look was Finnegan-esqe.)
The hitchhiker was Kirk's brother. You can just barely hear it when Kirk shouts his name as he passes in the car ("Sammy!").

As for Cupcake: God help him. That ain't gonna end well. Either Kirk's going to stick him in waste extraction so as to never have to deal with him again, or Cupcake (who surely still carries a grudge after all this time) will refuse one of Kirk's orders and will be kicked out of Starfleet.
Actually I think he yells out "Johnny" but it is supposed to be his brother (name change). Maybe.....who knows.....?>????
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Old May 15 2009, 03:12 AM   #51
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Re: Cupcake = Finnegan?

No, I'm fairly sure it was Sammy.

In the novelization, it's made a lot more clear. AFAIK, Sam originally had a bigger role in the film but like so many other scenes, it was cut. I think this is his only remaining appearance.

(Their stepdad must have been asshole central...the car was George Sr.'s, and stepdad was gonna sell it without telling Mom? )
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Old May 15 2009, 03:34 AM   #52
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The boy on the road being Kirk's brother.

I see no evidence on-screen that this is the case.
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Old May 15 2009, 03:40 AM   #53
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Star Trek XII should reveal that Cupcake is Finnegan's long-lost twin brother. That would be freakin hilarious.
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Old May 15 2009, 03:41 AM   #54
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EDIT:

The boy on the road being Kirk's brother.

I see no evidence on-screen that this is the case.
Maybe you don't see it, but you can hear it. Kirk definitely yells out "SAMMY!" as he whizzes by in the car.
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Old May 15 2009, 03:42 AM   #55
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The boy on the road being Kirk's brother.

I see no evidence on-screen that this is the case.
Maybe you don't see it, but you can hear it. Kirk definitely yells out "SAMMY!" as he whizzes by in the car.
So, how does him saying "Sammy" identify the guy as his brother?
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Old May 15 2009, 04:02 AM   #56
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No, I think he yells "Johnny!" doesn't he?
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Old May 15 2009, 04:02 AM   #57
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Yes, he yells Johnny
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Old May 15 2009, 04:06 AM   #58
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Re: Cupcake (spoilers)

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The boy on the road being Kirk's brother.

I see no evidence on-screen that this is the case.
Maybe you don't see it, but you can hear it. Kirk definitely yells out "SAMMY!" as he whizzes by in the car.
So, how does him saying "Sammy" identify the guy as his brother?
Because we already know Kirk's brother's name. It's George Samuel Kirk, Jr. Kirk's the only one who calls him Sam, though.

This movie may change many things, but character names aren't one of them.
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Old May 15 2009, 04:06 AM   #59
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Re: Cupcake (spoilers)

Seen it four times, always heard Johnny.
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Old May 15 2009, 05:02 AM   #60
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Maybe you don't see it, but you can hear it. Kirk definitely yells out "SAMMY!" as he whizzes by in the car.
So, how does him saying "Sammy" identify the guy as his brother?
Because we already know Kirk's brother's name. It's George Samuel Kirk, Jr. Kirk's the only one who calls him Sam, though.

This movie may change many things, but character names aren't one of them.
He yells, 'Johnny'
I have seen the movie 4 times in the theatre and have downloaded it as well.
I guarantee it is not 'Sammy.'

I do recall an interview where Sam was going to be in the movie, but they decided not to and cut him out.

BTW no one lecture me for downloading it, I am still going to see it in the theatre again (5th time), and I am going to buy the DVD when it comes out, so Paramount will get my money.
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