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Star Trek Movies XI+ Discuss J.J. Abrams' rebooted Star Trek here.

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Old May 11 2009, 04:33 PM   #1396
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Coming back here inside the forum and reading allthe nitpicking negativity is kind of a bummer I guess, but on the other hand: it doesn't influence my love for the film at all.
That can be a downer, but for every Jim Steele giving balanced and honest opinions showing that not everyones going to like it, there are a dozen people militantly demanding you hate the film and insulting you if you don't.
Jim Steele? Balanced? Do those words really belong in the same sentence?

Just kidding, Jim. You know I love ya.
Is this a good time to point out that I'm posting from a tent in Abrams' garden? Wamdue forgot the fucking kerosene. And pitchforks.
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Old May 11 2009, 04:37 PM   #1397
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Well after seeing it twice now I can safely say that movie was a great time and a pleasure to watch.

Couple of observations:

Karl Urban is simply awesome in this movie, my favorite character by far.

I'm probably going to stalk Zoe Saldana pretty aggressively.

Chris Pine really grew on me in the movie, and by the end I was really enjoying him.

I just loved it when the Enterprise (and other ships) went to warp. Great effects and sound.

Actually the special effects overall were outstanding. I don't know how they can get any better than that.

I enjoyed Eric Bana and his quest of revenge. Destroying Vulcan was simply awesome, and I'm glad that his attempt to destroy earth didn't turn out to be one of those "save it at the last possible second" things. I enjoyed what ended up being his fate and how he was bitter and adamant right to the end.

I thought the Enterprise was awesome, both inside and out. It felt HUGE from the shots inside.

Some surprisingly good humor, I felt that oldTrek humor really fell flat on its face most of the time.

Basically the only problems I had with the movie was that I found Chekov annoying, I didn't like how Kirk just stumbled upon Spock on Delta Viga (sp?) and the ending was wrapped up a bit too cleanly and nicely for me. But in no way did those minor nitpicks get in the way of a stellar time at the movies.

Can't wait for the effing sequel.
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Old May 11 2009, 04:38 PM   #1398
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Well at page 70 I guess I am late to the party.

I had high hopes for the film and while I enjoyed it - I saw it 3 times with different folk over the weekend - I can't give it more than 7.5 out of 10.

I liked the characters, I liked the emotion of the film but the story was pretty weak.

It was a nice setup to something else.
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Old May 11 2009, 04:40 PM   #1399
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I had been looking forward to this movie literally for years, given that I know some of the folks who worked on the film. All I asked was that it be less idiotic than the last Indiana Jones flick. Unfortunately, yesterday I was completely disappointed. Trash on steroids is still trash. I'm sorry that a fine cast was wasted on a badly directed, half-baked story essentially aimed at symbolically (very) deep-sixing intelligent Trek fans. Someone please tell the writers that the chain of command on a military vessel is not the same as choosing players for dodge ball or pickup football. From the first 5 minutes which appeared to be copying the emotional climax of "Deep Impact" (albeit shot in a brewery with a camcorder) to the final hokey exhortation to do what feels right rather than what makes sense, this film was off course. Move over, "Crystal Skull". I left the cinema feeling ill.
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Old May 11 2009, 04:42 PM   #1400
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Well at page 70 I guess I am late to the party.

I had high hopes for the film and while I enjoyed it - I saw it 3 times with different folk over the weekend - I can't give it more than 7.5 out of 10.

I liked the characters, I liked the emotion of the film but the story was pretty weak.

It was a nice setup to something else.
You didn't perchance fire up to Cineworld on saturday only to discover that the whole complex was closed due to "technical issues"? What the hell was that about?

"Cineworld has decided to close for fear of possible fanboy backlash"
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Old May 11 2009, 04:54 PM   #1401
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I'm probably going to stalk Zoe Saldana pretty aggressively.
Poor Coulter...


Basically the only problems I had with the movie was that I found Chekov annoying
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Old May 11 2009, 04:56 PM   #1402
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My girls took me to see the movie for Mother's Day and I have tried to catch up with this thread to see other's opinions and takes before posting - don't want to be too repetitive. In a nutshell, we all loved it!!
We have different points of view - my 16 YO has never watched scifi and, god bless her, she is the quintessential blonde cheerleader stereotype, although she is an honor student - my 32 YO is a science/math geek who has marginally enjoyed Trek, especially Kirk & Co., since she was a kid - and I am a somewhat geeky fan who got hooked on TOS in 1966 when I was 12. But, in the end, we really agreed on what we enjoyed about the movie.
Maybe it's a chick's point of view, but we really connected to the character development, the humor, the coming-of-age journey of both Kirk and Spock, the idea of finding your true friends in life, and low-key portrayal of Nero. The special effects, space battles, etc. were exciting, but not overdone, and by no means the central function of the movie, although the younger said some bits made her feel like she was in science class (not her favorite subject).
The elder daughter and I felt that the new cast gave us the essential elements of our favorite characters, and then spun some great new twists on them - we like these newer versions mucho grande. The younger had no frame of reference, but likes the characters very much - she really liked Chekov and was impressed that he is only 17. Since my family name is Pike, and my brother named his son after Capt. Pike, we have a fondness for the great portrayal of Pike by Greenwood. I liked the ordinariness of Nero with his random fits of maniacal madness. I don't like many of the over-the-top villians that are so common and overdone in movies so often.
I like the differences in this universe, especially those for Spock. There is tremendous potential to give these characters amazing new adventures. We agreed on keeping Vulcan destroyed, and although you might consider it a stretch that all these young officers ended up on the Enterprise, there is no more suspension of disbelief asked of the viewer than in almost any Trek movie or episode, or many other stories for that matter. Really didn't impact my enjoyment in any way.
We noticed the Spock/Uhura undercurrents from their first scene together. I thought the scene in the turbolift (when she tried to comfort him and got his Vulcan 'stiff upper lip' in response) showed a deep connection, caring, and understanding between these two - an extreme rarity in Trek to date, and a very welcome addition. We totally loved Kirk and Scotty responding to the kiss on the transporter pad.
So many things about Kirk's developing character that we found interesting - I'll just mention that one of the most telling for me was his diving off the platform after Sulu ('I don't believe in no-win scenarios'). And I loved that Vulcans and Romulans could totally whip his ass - one thing I hated about ENT was that Archer could always beat up any stronger alien.
In the end, when you pay your money to see the movie of your choice, you hope that the (fictional) story entertains you to your money's worth. We felt completely entertained BEYOND our money's worth, and that is what matters.
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Old May 11 2009, 04:58 PM   #1403
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The more I think about it, the more I dislike the design of engineering. It just looks too industrial today and not futuristic at all.
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Old May 11 2009, 05:00 PM   #1404
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Maybe it's a chick's point of view, but we really connected to the character development, the humor, the coming-of-age journey of both Kirk and Spock, the idea of finding your true friends in life, and low-key portrayal of Nero. The special effects, space battles, etc. were exciting, but not overdone, and by no means the central function of the movie, although the younger said some bits made her feel like she was in science class (not her favorite subject).
No... NOOOOO!! Star Trek is a ... chick flick?!?

Curse you, Abrams!!!

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Old May 11 2009, 05:09 PM   #1405
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No... NOOOOO!! Star Trek is a ... chick flick?!?

Curse you, Abrams!!!
Damnit, if anything was going to send me down the spiral of fanboy anger, it was Nimthim's post.

Proper ragin' like, kicking down walls and shit. Gonna go home and find a cat to punch.
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Old May 11 2009, 05:09 PM   #1406
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My girls took me to see the movie for Mother's Day and I have tried to catch up with this thread to see other's opinions and takes before posting - don't want to be too repetitive. In a nutshell, we all loved it!!
We have different points of view - my 16 YO has never watched scifi and, god bless her, she is the quintessential blonde cheerleader stereotype, although she is an honor student - my 32 YO is a science/math geek who has marginally enjoyed Trek, especially Kirk & Co., since she was a kid - and I am a somewhat geeky fan who got hooked on TOS in 1966 when I was 12. But, in the end, we really agreed on what we enjoyed about the movie.
Maybe it's a chick's point of view, but we really connected to the character development, the humor, the coming-of-age journey of both Kirk and Spock, the idea of finding your true friends in life, and low-key portrayal of Nero. The special effects, space battles, etc. were exciting, but not overdone, and by no means the central function of the movie, although the younger said some bits made her feel like she was in science class (not her favorite subject).
The elder daughter and I felt that the new cast gave us the essential elements of our favorite characters, and then spun some great new twists on them - we like these newer versions mucho grande. The younger had no frame of reference, but likes the characters very much - she really liked Chekov and was impressed that he is only 17. Since my family name is Pike, and my brother named his son after Capt. Pike, we have a fondness for the great portrayal of Pike by Greenwood. I liked the ordinariness of Nero with his random fits of maniacal madness. I don't like many of the over-the-top villians that are so common and overdone in movies so often.
I like the differences in this universe, especially those for Spock. There is tremendous potential to give these characters amazing new adventures. We agreed on keeping Vulcan destroyed, and although you might consider it a stretch that all these young officers ended up on the Enterprise, there is no more suspension of disbelief asked of the viewer than in almost any Trek movie or episode, or many other stories for that matter. Really didn't impact my enjoyment in any way.
We noticed the Spock/Uhura undercurrents from their first scene together. I thought the scene in the turbolift (when she tried to comfort him and got his Vulcan 'stiff upper lip' in response) showed a deep connection, caring, and understanding between these two - an extreme rarity in Trek to date, and a very welcome addition. We totally loved Kirk and Scotty responding to the kiss on the transporter pad.
So many things about Kirk's developing character that we found interesting - I'll just mention that one of the most telling for me was his diving off the platform after Sulu ('I don't believe in no-win scenarios'). And I loved that Vulcans and Romulans could totally whip his ass - one thing I hated about ENT was that Archer could always beat up any stronger alien.
In the end, when you pay your money to see the movie of your choice, you hope that the (fictional) story entertains you to your money's worth. We felt completely entertained BEYOND our money's worth, and that is what matters.
from one girl to another: welcome to the board... great review!!

we think alike. agreed on a lot of points, especially the Uhura-Spock thing being well done and maturely handled (appropriate for the two characters, as well). also agreed on the Kirk no-win attitude... I too liked his jump after Sulu... and... AND the fact that he got beat up by cupcake and his buddies. Kirk was never a Superman... the difference he made was in that he never let up.

cool stuff... glad to meet you (and your girls!).
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Old May 11 2009, 05:10 PM   #1407
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Nimthim wrote: View Post

Maybe it's a chick's point of view, but we really connected to the character development, the humor, the coming-of-age journey of both Kirk and Spock, the idea of finding your true friends in life, and low-key portrayal of Nero. The special effects, space battles, etc. were exciting, but not overdone, and by no means the central function of the movie, although the younger said some bits made her feel like she was in science class (not her favorite subject).
No... NOOOOO!! Star Trek is a ... chick flick?!?

Curse you, Abrams!!!

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quiet, you. you know you want the girls to like Trek... so stop complaining.
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Old May 11 2009, 05:12 PM   #1408
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Nimthim wrote: View Post

Maybe it's a chick's point of view, but we really connected to the character development, the humor, the coming-of-age journey of both Kirk and Spock, the idea of finding your true friends in life, and low-key portrayal of Nero. The special effects, space battles, etc. were exciting, but not overdone, and by no means the central function of the movie, although the younger said some bits made her feel like she was in science class (not her favorite subject).
No... NOOOOO!! Star Trek is a ... chick flick?!?

Curse you, Abrams!!!

Walks out the door, grumbling, to purchase tickets for another viewing, feeling less burly and manly.
quiet, you. you know you want the girls to like Trek... so stop complaining.
Just give me the big hair and the miniskirts, and I'm placated.

Well maybe not placated.

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Old May 11 2009, 05:13 PM   #1409
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No... NOOOOO!! Star Trek is a ... chick flick?!?

Curse you, Abrams!!!
Damnit, if anything was going to send me down the spiral of fanboy anger, it was Nimthim's post.

Proper ragin' like, kicking down walls and shit. Gonna go home and find a cat to punch.
My cat is right here, have at it.
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Jim Steele wrote: View Post
No... NOOOOO!! Star Trek is a ... chick flick?!?

Curse you, Abrams!!!
Damnit, if anything was going to send me down the spiral of fanboy anger, it was Nimthim's post.

Proper ragin' like, kicking down walls and shit. Gonna go home and find a cat to punch.
My cat is right here, have at it.
And please, no comments about pussy.
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