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Old May 9 2009, 04:09 PM   #16
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Re: ENT Reference in Star Trek XI? - SPOILERS

Oh, ok. Now it seems easy, thanks. So...

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Old May 9 2009, 04:50 PM   #17
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Yeah, with the altered timeline/history in this new reality(at least for the next couple of films anyways)ENTERPRISE is probably the only remnant of the original history that can be safely referenced now.
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OMG - you're right. That's ironic, huh?! I also think it's safe to say the Cage (Menagerie) happened beforehand. Other than that, all bets are off.
Oh it's going to be such fun watching how the anti-ENT brigade take this turn of events. MUHAHAHAHAHAHA
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Old May 9 2009, 05:33 PM   #18
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If i remember correctly Pike said something to Spock about the ship being brand new. I believe all the ships that went to Vulcan with cadets were new.
It'll be sad if Number One, the female version, never existed. If they do another movie, it'd be great to add Nurse Chapel to the cast. But with Spock/Uhura ... I'm not sure what that would do.
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Old May 9 2009, 06:07 PM   #19
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I loved the mention of Admiral Archer! One of my favorite moments of the film.
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Old May 9 2009, 06:10 PM   #20
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Nurse Chapel gets mentioned in the film.

Anyway, concerning Enterprise, it's poetic justice that it's the only show that remains untouched, as it were, by this new thing. Although I still believe that Nero and Spock Prime went to the past of a nearly-identical reality, where things are slightly different from what we know.

The bit about Scotty and the beagle is hilarious, though, I really loved that scene and the look on Scotty's face while he was telling Kirk about it.
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Old May 9 2009, 06:21 PM   #21
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the reference to admiral archer wasn't the only ENT reference in the movie; there is also spock's reference to the katric ark, so there are at least two!

i'm totally loving the fact that the only bit of primary-timeline canon that's still in place in the neronian timeline is ENT. ha! so much for the "non-canon" argument (which was totally ridiculous to begin with)....
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Old May 9 2009, 06:29 PM   #22
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there is also spock's reference to the katric ark
Where?
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Re: ENT Reference in Star Trek XI? - SPOILERS

So, does anyone know whether Abrams is an big ENT fan? (as opposed to being a fan of the other post-TOS Treks?) I ask because with an alternate time line, he could have worked in little references to the other series if he had wanted to.
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Old May 9 2009, 06:53 PM   #24
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So, does anyone know whether Abrams is an big ENT fan?
I doubt he ever saw a single episode. "I'm not a Star Trek fan" is something he constantly keeps repeating. Orci probably saw at least some of it, he's supposed to be this huge Trekkie and a TrekLit buff.
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So, does anyone know whether Abrams is an big ENT fan?
I doubt he ever saw a single episode. "I'm not a Star Trek fan" is something he constantly keeps repeating. Orci probably saw at least some of it, he's supposed to be this huge Trekkie and a TrekLit buff.
Oh, OK, thanks.
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Nurse Chapel gets mentioned in the film.
Where's that?
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Old May 9 2009, 07:37 PM   #27
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Nice to know there are several references to Enterprise in the new movie. I hope to get my movie novel I ordered soon. I look forward to seeing what's mentioned in the book.Also to finally see the new movie too.
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Old May 9 2009, 07:41 PM   #28
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Nurse Chapel gets mentioned in the film.
Where's that?
That scene where Kirk's palms get swollen (reaction to a vaccine IIRC). Bones actually requests something from her, but she remains off screen.
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Old May 9 2009, 07:47 PM   #29
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Nurse Chapel gets mentioned in the film.
Where's that?
That scene where Kirk's palms get swollen (reaction to a vaccine IIRC). Bones actually requests something from her, but she remains off screen.
Cool, thanks! I'll keep an eye out for it on second viewing.
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Old May 9 2009, 08:43 PM   #30
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I'm an ENT fan, but to be honest I can't say I liked the reference at all. In fact I thought it was a crap reference.
Archer was born in approx 2111, the line is said in 2261 (IIRC.) Archer would 150 years old.
McCoy was only 137 in Encounter At Farpoint, and that the was the 24th Century, and he looked like he was going to die at any minute. So how would Archer be then?
So you just basically killed a poor old mans dog? The man who saved Earth from the Xindi, who helped formed the Federation, who was dubbed 'the greatest explorer of the 22nd Century'?
That's meant to be funny?


I much prefer to go by the bio from In A Mirror Darkly pt.2, that Archer still lived pretty old, but to 2245 the day after attending the the christening ceremony of the first Federation Starship Enterprise, NCC-1701. And he wasn't an Admiral, he became Ambassador to Andoria, a councilman on the Federation, and eventually President of the UFP.
No that's respect to the guy. Not killing off his beloved pet when he's on his deathbed
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