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Star Trek Movies XI+ Discuss J.J. Abrams' rebooted Star Trek here.

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Old May 8 2009, 06:37 PM   #676
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Re: The Official STAR TREK Grading & Discussion Thread [SPOILERS]

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I've been on the TrekBBS for 7 and a half years, and I thought it was lame. So get your facts right
How amusingly ironic coming from a guy standing in front of a 'Back to the Future' poster...
Oh yeah, let's get personal. How kind of you. What a nice chap you must be.
If you'd bothered reading my posts I'd said I didn't enjoy the film that much, but if other people did then good on them.
But oh no, that's not frigging good enough for the likes of you is it. Anyone who would dare dislike something you like is a massive twat and must be shown up.
And what does that even mean anyway, yeah because BTTF isn't a popular film 24 years later is it? Is it a crime now to like that film?
Grow up please, and an apology wouldn't go amiss


Just for the record, Marty McFly's adventures are three of my favourite movies.
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Old May 8 2009, 06:38 PM   #677
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. I am disapointed that I spent 5 dollars on this movie. It was so bad.

DANG, where did you watch it for only 5.00$?!!
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Old May 8 2009, 06:43 PM   #678
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^^ Dang it, what's with all these new members lately (the Cadets, and Lieutenant Junior Grades and such) who barge into threads just to be negative, then leave? Have I been transported to IMDb? EDIT: No seriously. I've scanned the last few pages and honestly every negative word came from someone who is brand new to the forum. Are we being infiltrated? )
I wonder how many of these shiny new cadets can be traced to the same IP address.
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Old May 8 2009, 06:44 PM   #679
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The cadet-to-Captain thing is unsalvagable. (...) I've looked the other way at Trek's disinterest in the realities of military structure and the chain of command...
Starfleet isn't the military.
As Harve Bennett famously replied to one of Roddenberry's memos, "It used to be." (...)

In the writer's guide for the series, Roddenberry encouraged writers to test the plausibility of Kirk's behavior in their stories by asking themselves "would the Captain of an aircraft carrier behave this way?"
Your point is well taken. On the other hand, Roddenberry said he originally didn't want to give the characters military ranks at all but he needed something the audience would understand.

Starfleet has been interpreted a number of different ways. Harve Bennett and Nick Meyer went with a more militaristic interpretation, as did Ira Behr and Ron Moore. Roddenberry and Michael Piller seemed to favor a less militaristic interpretation.

I prefer Roddenberry and Piller but it's all a matter of opinion, I guess. The interpretations of this franchise by different showrunners over the years sometimes makes me think it's a mistake to try to find a consistent perspective at all. Better to take each show on its own terms. From that point of view this movie is hardly the first time Star Trek has been reinvented.
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Old May 8 2009, 06:45 PM   #680
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Just for the record, Marty McFly's adventures are three of my favourite movies.
So what's the problem?
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Old May 8 2009, 06:48 PM   #681
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Just for the record, Marty McFly's adventures are three of my favourite movies.
So what's the problem?
I think his point was the logic of the time travel in BTTF gave you no trouble, why does it bother you in this. But I'm just guessing.
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Old May 8 2009, 06:48 PM   #682
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I'm very dissapointed. I won't say I hate it, but I feel let down. A full reveiw later....
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Old May 8 2009, 06:49 PM   #683
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J.J. Abrams Raped Star Trek. Seriously, he took the series and had his way with it. I am disapointed that I spent 5 dollars on this movie. It was so bad.

If you haven't seen it. Here is the one spoiler that will make you hate JJ Abrams.

HE DESTROYED VULCAN.

That means all the Vulcans from Star Trek the Next Generation, DS9, and voyager are DEAD.

think about that for a minute...
Vorik gets de-canonized? That alone would make it worth the admission price
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Old May 8 2009, 06:52 PM   #684
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... you don't care what it's done to future events ...
No, I don't. Not one little bit.
Neither do I.

I'm actually quite surprised at how reverential the writers were to past material. This movie was clearly quite enamoured of the source material and did its damndest to litter the script with references and nods to what came before.

As a film, this movie was unrelenting in its pace. The two-hour runtime flew by with hardly a hitch and the action sequences were the best ever seen in a Trek feature. I would agree that the plot was on the thin side, but Gods did the characters and portrayals ring true.

Quinto was Spock in every measurable way. His was the performance that worried me the most, but he was entirely believable even when faced with Leonard Nimoy during the final sequence. Pine embodied a very happy mix of the brash 'movie' Kirk and the introspective self-doubting Kirk of S1 TOS. The romance angle between Uhura and Spock was also quite well done and I thought that they had good chemistry. Urban dallied a little too close to impersonation on a couple of occasions, but it was nice to see those hints of DeForest Kelley as he was always my favorite TOS performer.

The Big E looked fantastic in her new configuration and the visual effects were uniformly superb throughout.

All in all, this probably represents the best possible mix of opening Trek up to a new audience while still giving the fans little hints and nods to the Trek of yore. I am looking forward to seeing the pic again on Imax in a week and am very interested in where they go with the potential sequel.
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Old May 8 2009, 06:55 PM   #685
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I wonder how many of these shiny new cadets can be traced to the same IP address.
Is it so inconceivable that there is more than one person here who doesn't like this movie?
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Old May 8 2009, 06:56 PM   #686
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loved it !!!
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Old May 8 2009, 06:56 PM   #687
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... now I'm left with a Star Trek universe in which my beloved spin-off either won't happen or will be so different that I may wish it hadn't.
This perspective always mystifies me. I've heard it a lot recently since I'm a Spider-Man fan too and there was just a big continuity change in that universe too.

Star Trek episodes are just stories -- they were always fictional, they never really happened at all. Now, Nero's time travel erased some of the events of TNG in the FICTIONAL universe, but it's not as if the reruns and DVDs are going to disappear into thin air. You can still watch them an enjoy them just like you did before.

I'm not trying to belittle your feelings. I can see you feel bad about this. I just don't understand why it seem so hard to like the new Star Trek universe and keep loving the old one too. Why does it have to be an either-or choice?
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Old May 8 2009, 06:57 PM   #688
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I wonder how many of these shiny new cadets can be traced to the same IP address.
Is it so inconceivable that there is more than one person here who doesn't like this movie?
I hope not.
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Old May 8 2009, 06:57 PM   #689
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Just for the record, Marty McFly's adventures are three of my favourite movies.
So what's the problem?
I think his point was the logic of the time travel in BTTF gave you no trouble, why does it bother you in this. But I'm just guessing.
Well again as I said yesterday, the time travel element isn't the main reason I didn't enjoy it. The main reason is I myself just found it boring. Scenes that were meant to be action packed and exciting simply didn't work for me. I wasn't invested in the characters and the plot became far too predictable and by the numbers.
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Old May 8 2009, 07:01 PM   #690
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If you haven't seen it. Here is the one spoiler that will make you hate JJ Abrams.

HE DESTROYED VULCAN.
I thought it was freaking awesome that he had the balls to do it and not reset it like Berman or others would have done...remember, this isn't the TNG universe anymore...Tuvok and Vorik and Selar and all the rest aren't dead...they're just in another part of the multiverse.
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