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Star Trek Movies XI+ Discuss J.J. Abrams' rebooted Star Trek here.

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Excellent 706 62.70%
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Average 84 7.46%
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Old May 7 2009, 08:23 PM   #286
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But why use the name Delta Vega? Just use another one. That sort of thing just strikes me as inherent laziness and ineptitude on the writers behalf (not that that sort of error is alone to this movie in the Trek universe at all, but the point stands)
http://trekmovie.com/2009/04/30/inte...alex-kurtzman/

For the Trek fans, this film includes many little references. For example you have Kirk dropped off on the planet Delta Vega, which was seen in second Star Trek pilot. It is a cool reference, but didn’t you also fudge canon by ignoring that Delta Vega was way out next to the galactic barrier.


Orci: True. Yeah we did. We moved the planet to suit our purposes. The familiarity of the name seemed more important as an Easter egg, than a new name with no importance.
This is gross stupidity on display. They go out of their way to make an inaccurate reference guaranteed to get the attention of long time fans, the only ones who'd get the reference in the first place, in a situation where the only logical response is for said long time fan to stop paying attention to the story being told and go, "What the -- Delta Vega is nowhere near Vulcan..."

Like I said, that's not an example of "honoring canon", it's name dropping by incompetent writers who don't know what they're talking about.
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Old May 7 2009, 08:33 PM   #287
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Where Kirk grew up is fanon, not canon. That he is "from Iowa" is canon as of Star Trek IV.

People who want to nitpick canon should at least be conversant with it.
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Old May 7 2009, 08:37 PM   #288
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It was never stated that he grew up on Tarsus IV (which is the assertion that was being addressed), only that he was there when Kodos wiped out half the colony's population.

Those who jump into the middle of arguments need to pay attention.
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Old May 7 2009, 08:46 PM   #289
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I haven't read all the posts (skipped a few pages that resembled the Dominion war...) but... I saw this movie this morning. I had twenty minutes to gather my thoughts before reviewing it on the radio and all I could think was 'wow!'.

The opening scene, as some have mentioned, was brilliant. The sacrifice George Kirk made to save Jimmy T worked well and I loved the rest of the film stemming from it from Kirks chat with Spock about Kirk Primes father, to Nero's whole vengeance angle to Kirk putting all the pieces together.

Everything I was hesitant about was put to rest in my mind. Engineering looked fantastic, far more industrial and believable than before. The bridge looked far better on screen than it did in pictures and I didn't even care that it dropped a few decks. The comedy was spot on, even the whole swollen hands thing amused me where I thought I would cringe.

I was blown away by the movie. It completely lived up to the hype for me.

The story of Kirk and Spock coming together, the chemistry between the two, the whole cast... everything felt spot on. It felt different, but it still felt Trek.

I've read a few people complain (well not really complain, comment) on Kirks promotion - it didn't seem out of place to me at all. Pike knew Kirk was something special, he proved it, they made a point of saying it was more a Peace Corps than a military structure, Pike himself was out of comission and a few good captains were lost at Vulcan.

Besides - whats the point in a creation story without having Captain Kirk at the end of the journey?

Edit - I should also mention that I smirked a bit at the Nokia tone and even though it never seemed right to have modern music in Trek, Sabotage seemed to work for me.
I completely agree. The movie just blew me away, especially the redesigned engineering, I wasn't expecting that at all. Going again on Saturday and I can't bloody wait!
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Old May 7 2009, 08:48 PM   #290
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Just seen it and very much enjoyed it. My non-trek girlfirend ewnt with me (she gets confused between Star Trek and Star Wars) and she seemed to enjoy it too, but got a bit confused with the plot.

Does anybody have any ideas when the next film will be out?

I'm going to see it tomorrow again, can't wait!
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Old May 7 2009, 08:52 PM   #291
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I'd hazard a wild guess as being about 2011/12 given the time frame of this one. And yes, my girlfriend liked it too despite the fact she's not into Trek. A good sign methinks.
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Old May 7 2009, 08:57 PM   #292
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I'd hazard a wild guess as being about 2011/12 given the time frame of this one. And yes, my girlfriend liked it too despite the fact she's not into Trek. A good sign methinks.

Hoefully this time, without that blasted 5 month delay!
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Old May 7 2009, 08:58 PM   #293
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I'd hazard a wild guess as being about 2011/12 given the time frame of this one. And yes, my girlfriend liked it too despite the fact she's not into Trek. A good sign methinks.
Ha! How far we've fallen.
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Old May 7 2009, 09:01 PM   #294
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I'd hazard a wild guess as being about 2011/12 given the time frame of this one. And yes, my girlfriend liked it too despite the fact she's not into Trek. A good sign methinks.
Ha! How far we've fallen.
In that it appeals to someone besides the fanbase that went to see the previous few films and made Nemesis the box office smash that it was? I think if Abrams wants to attract those who that film scared off, he'll succeed.
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Old May 7 2009, 09:01 PM   #295
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I'd hazard a wild guess as being about 2011/12 given the time frame of this one. And yes, my girlfriend liked it too despite the fact she's not into Trek. A good sign methinks.
Ha! How far we've fallen.
You do know if this film was made just for trek fans it would be a spectacular failure?

Im GLAD non trek types are into this film, its what it needs.
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Old May 7 2009, 09:06 PM   #296
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I'd hazard a wild guess as being about 2011/12 given the time frame of this one. And yes, my girlfriend liked it too despite the fact she's not into Trek. A good sign methinks.
Ha! How far we've fallen.
Indeed.
Some have fallen so far they think Trek is a closed club reserved for a few chosen ones and nobody new should ever join.

Sad.
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Old May 7 2009, 09:08 PM   #297
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I just wish I had a total of the people that frequent this site, who were blasting the crap out of Berman and co. Hoping beyond hope that SOMEONE would come in and clean up his messes. Maybe trim up all the spinoff crap and bring Trek back to is roots. I can hear them now....
"I did want that! But not THIS way, either."

It's like showing a 4 year old ten diffrent toys and they shake their heads at all of them.

Go to the movies. Take the wife and kids, eat popcorn, have fun, and move the hell on.
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Old May 7 2009, 09:12 PM   #298
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I'd hazard a wild guess as being about 2011/12 given the time frame of this one. And yes, my girlfriend liked it too despite the fact she's not into Trek. A good sign methinks.
Ha! How far we've fallen.
Indeed.
Some have fallen so far they think Trek is a closed club reserved for a few chosen ones and nobody new should ever join.

Sad.
It is sad. If only they knew. The closed club thing has been SO overdone.

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Old May 7 2009, 09:17 PM   #299
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Because Spock has to have a sudden attack of the stupids in order for JJ to get his own Star Trek universe to run amok in
Yup, pretty much. That's the reality of the situation and I'm glad you can grasp it.

If you want that former, stale Trek you can always make your own personal low quality version in your basement. Maybe it will be more entertaining than your laughable and inconsequential critique of this movie, but I doubt it.

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Old May 7 2009, 09:17 PM   #300
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Just saw it last night...

A fantastic movie!!!! Abrams is Awesome, IMO!!!

The look, the pace, the storyline - the characters - were all amazing!!!

The new Enterprise looks brilliant!!!! It's now my favourite starship design, overtaking by a narrow margin, the TMP Refit Enterprise design, which has held sway in my books for soooo long now...

I can't wait for the sequel to this - Abrams has established the characters well, in this new timeline, which has me hankering for more!!!!



MORE I TELLS YA!!!!!! MORE!!!!!!

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