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[Elemental]

Why is the Terok Nor trilogy listed as part of the DS9 post-finale series?

Also, I don't usually see that Captain's Table book listed under the VOY post-finale series. Should it be considered in there along with the others? Didn't Riker have a Captain's Table book that isn't considered a part of Titan?

[Marie1]

JD wrote:

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Marie1, would you want to change the CoE link to the Memory Beta page? The pages there are more detailed, and IMO tend to be a better resource when it comes to the books, comics, and whatnot.

I only used that link as a good list of what was made, by whom, and what was printed- it was too long IMO to list all 70 stories. There are a several other links listed for sources of other book information.

LightningStorm wrote:

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So that we don't have random posts in the middle of the FAQ I have deleted those two posts and copied them here

Thanks.

Elemental wrote:

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Why is the Terok Nor trilogy listed as part of the DS9 post-finale series?

Also, I don't usually see that Captain's Table book listed under the VOY post-finale series. Should it be considered in there along with the others? Didn't Riker have a Captain's Table book that isn't considered a part of Titan?

The Terok Nor series is listed with the Lost Era section, but since it's obviously part of DS9, I put it in that reading list too, as was discussed in the old FAQ thread.

Looking into the Capt. table book... what should be done with it? Every series has one of those stories...

[JD]

Doesn't Janeway's CT book take place during the series? As for Riker's it wasn't actually a book, it was a short story in Tales from the Captain's Table. And at that rate you might want to add the other entries to their respective series too, since they all fit pretty well into the gaps in stories, and even fill in some background for a few of them.
Here's the list
Riker: Improvisations on the Opal Sea: A Tale of Dubious Credibility by Michael A. Martin and Andy Mangels. (Takes place before Taking Wing)
Picard: Darkness by Michael Jan Friedman (after Maker, during The Buried Age)
Kira: The Officer's Club by Heather Jarman (Between Unity and WoDS9 v2: Bajor: Fragments and Omens)
Klag: IoDni'pu' vavu' je by KRAD (Between Enemy Territory and A Burning House)
Gold: An Easy Fast by John J. Ordover (??)
Shelby: Pain Management by Peter David (Between Stone and Anvil and After the Fall) *Very important, if you're going to add any of them add this one*.
Chakotay: Seduced (between The Further Shore and Old Wounds)
Archer: Have Beagle, Will Travel by Louisa M. Swan (??)
Demora Sulu: Iron and Sacrifice by David R. George III (after Serpents Among the Ruins).
The stories are actually placed by when the Captain is telling the story/ies, the stories themselves usually take place earlier, sometimes at multiple points in the timeline.

[Christopher]

JD wrote:

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The stories are actually placed by when the Captain is telling the story/ies, the stories themselves usually take place earlier, sometimes at multiple points in the timeline.

If you're dating them by when the captain is in the bar, you should list "Darkness" at the same time as "Improvisations on the Opal Sea," because Picard and Riker are in the bar together just before Taking Wing. As for Picard's story itself, it takes place a few months after the Stargazer is lost, but I wouldn't call that "after Maker," since there are nearly 22 years and several other extant works of SGZ fiction between those tales.

And I question whether it's accurate to list "Darkness," "The Officer's Club," and "Seduced" by the date they're told in the bar, because the part about the captain telling the tale in the bar is not an integral part of any of those stories. It's part of the interstitial material around them, but those three stories have no actual in-story connection to the Captain's Table at all (and "Darkness" isn't even a first-person narrative). I think it would make more sense to list them by when they individually take place and list the interstitial passages separately by when they occur relative to the captains' careers.

[KRAD]

JD wrote:

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Here's the list

With respect to JD and with thanks for his effort, his list is incomplete and misleading (and filled with errors -- sorry!).

With the Captain's Table stories, there are often two timeline placements -- one for the captains at the time they're telling the story, one for the story the captains are telling.

For Tales from the Captain's Table, here's how it breaks down:

William T. Riker: "Improvisations on the Opal Sea: A Tale of Dubious Credibility" by Michael A. Martin and Andy Mangels. (frame and story take place between Chapters 1-2 of Taking Wing and between the final scenes of Nemesis)

Jean-Luc Picard: "Darkness" by Michael Jan Friedman (frame is simultaneous with Riker's, story between Parts 1 and 2 of The Buried Age)

Elizabeth Shelby: "Pain Management" by Peter David (frame and story is between Stone and Anvil and After the Fall)

Klag, son of M'Raq: "loDnI'pu' vavpu' je" by Keith R.A. DeCandido (frame is between Chapters 10 & 17 of A Burning House, story over the course of several years in Klag's life)

Kira Nerys: "The Officer's Club" by Heather Jarman (frame is between Unity and Bajor: Fragments and Omens, story between Chapters 18 and 19 of Dawn of the Eagles)

Jonathan Archer: "Have Beagle, Will Travel" by Louisa M. Swan (frame takes place shortly after "Cease Fire," story is unplaceable)

Demora Sulu: Iron and Sacrifice by David R. George III (frame and story both take place at varying times after Serpents Among the Ruins, except for the part that takes place prior to it)

Chakotay: Seduced (frame takes place between The Farther Shore and Spirit Walk: Old Wounds, story takes place around the same time as the flashbacks in "Tattoo")

David Gold: "An Easy Fast" by John J. Ordover (frame is some time prior to the War Stories Book 2 flashbacks, story over the course of several years)

[ltcmmanderdata]

thanks for the faq these are very helpful

[Elemental]

Thanks for all the info guys!

[JD]

Sorry about the list, I was going by the timeline on Memory Beta. But thanks for the corrections, I'll have to keep those placements in mind if I reread like I've been thinking about doing recently.

[Therin of Andor]

JD wrote:

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Doesn't Janeway's CT book take place during the series?

It marks the change from the Janeway "bun of steel" to her new shorter haircut.

[Marie1]

ltcmmanderdata wrote:

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thanks for the faq these are very helpful

Glad it's proving useful... I'm almost done kidnapping all the authors so it will never have to updated again. Dayton Ward is eluding me... for now...

Still haven't heard back from Margaret Clark re: Oblivion... I thought having the missing text online might be good for anyone who picks up that first ed. at a UBS...

[Snaploud]

I ordered a copy of Oblivion online. Apparently, it's a first printing (with errors). *shrugs*

[Manisphere]

Quick question about post Destiny reading order. Should I read A Singular Destiny before I read Full Circle? I don't want to run into any Singular Destiny spoilers in FC.

Thanks

[Christopher]

Manisphere wrote:

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Quick question about post Destiny reading order. Should I read A Singular Destiny before I read Full Circle? I don't want to run into any Singular Destiny spoilers in FC.

I don't think there are any ASD spoilers in FC. The post-Destiny portion of FC runs pretty much simultaneously with ASD; they're two separate series of events that don't really overlap. However, I do recall one minor FC spoiler in ASD, so if you're spoilerphobic you should probably read FC first.

[Manisphere]

Christopher wrote:

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I don't think there are any ASD spoilers in FC. The post-Destiny portion of FC runs pretty much simultaneously with ASD; they're two separate series of events that don't really overlap. However, I do recall one minor FC spoiler in ASD, so if you're spoilerphobic you should probably read FC first.

Interesting. Didn't ASD come out months earlier though?

[Christopher]

^It came out earlier, but we all got to see each other's manuscripts and work in cross-references in the revision phase. ASD contains Easter-egg references to all three of the other post-Destiny novels, which serve as foreshadowing because it was the first one to come out.