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Location: Ireland
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Re: A Hater Revisits Voyager
It's amazing how the little things annoy me. During the final scene where Belle dies, Dr Kenneth Shmully (henceforth known as K-Shmull) pulls out a tricorder and spends ten seconds scanning her to check that's she's really dead. I found that distracting and it ruined a great emotional scene, so it lessened the impact of the death. Combined with the fact that we'll never see K-Shmull's family again and the episode doesn't even think about addressing the impact of this death beyond the final scene, this episode loses some of its power. But overall I found it to be pretty good, K-Shmull and his family at the beginning made for some humorous scenes, and his attempts to relate with his family after B'Elanna changes the program make for some good character moments for K-Shmull. I found most of this episode enjoyable. Then there's the b-plot where Voyager encounters blah blah blah and explores blah blah blah shuttle gets stuck blah blah blah moose testicles blah blah blah blah. To be fair, this weird sci-fi plot didn't annoy me too much, and the special effects were cool so the shallow side of my brain enjoyed the pretty colours. It was standard fare as far as sci-fi plots go and it at least tried to tie into K-Shmull's story at the end.
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Re: A Hater Revisits Voyager
And all of this holo-programming stuff for the Doctor really makes me wonder why no one ever thought to program a holographic staff - make them interns that the doctor teaches so he has a medical staff and doesn't need to draft Tom for his medical assistant - in situations where Tom would be needed in Sickbay, they'd also need him at the helm, and what happens in Sickbay if anything happens to Tom? EDIT: To Jaespol, and I'm willing to be corrected if I'm wrong, but I believe that what happened to the Doctor's daughter was that she was playing without safety equipment and taking more risks. I have an aunt who is living with the consequences of not doing that while bike-riding, so I know what it's like - my aunt is essentially confined to a wheelchair after she crashed into a tree and hit her head. It was before I was born, so I'm fuzzy on the details behind it, but those 'statisical probabilities' mean jack to the people it does happen to. Life's one big crap-shoot, and the snake eyes come up more often than one might think. |
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Location: Ireland
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Re: A Hater Revisits Voyager
I don't want to think of him either, but if they're not going to give him a name then I'm going to and it is my duty as a viewer to give him the most humiliating name possible.
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Re: A Hater Revisits Voyager
Then you've got the perfunctory technobabble-laden B-plot that is just there to pad out the hour and you have an episode whose only interesting contribution to the series was Torres' neat one-time hair braid. Overall another weak outing from Jeri Taylor. |
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Location: Lynx Empire
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Re: A Hater Revisits Voyager
One of my top 10 favorite episodes. OK, the story is actually very weird but it's interesting to see the flashbacks of Kes's earlier life and also what could have been if Kes had stayed (no, I don't think that the future had become exactly as it was described) and also for what "Year of Hell" could have been if they had kept Kes and the original concept. I have to agree with GodBen about Kes's past. I would also have liked to see more of it. As for the change of hairstyle, it wasn't actually planned. It happened because Jennifer Lien had an allergic reaction to the glue which was used to attach the Ocampa ears on her head. While letting her have long hair, the Ocampa ears could be omitted. That was the reason for the quick change of hairstyle and why it never was explained in the series. In the episode "Worst Case Scenario", Kes has short hair again but look closely and you'll see that there are no Ocampa ears. As for the long hair, what I know it was a wig too! Personally I must admit that I prefer Kes with short hair. It's more of a trademark fr the character. She looks great in long hair too but more like an average character, one of those we've seen in so many series and movies. As for the catsuit, that was probably because of Braga's obsession with such clothes. I prefer Kes with her normal Ocampa clothes. As for the episode itself, I'll give it 5 points out of 5! Still Life ![]() Now why do I always mix the title of the episode up with an Iron Maiden song with that name? Sorry for that, of course the name for the episode is:Real Life I have to admit that this episode doesn't work for me and I don't understand why they came up with it in the first place. Lack of inspiration? Because this isn't a Voyager story, more a syrupy soap-opera episode and the whole "hologram wants to become human" gone too far. I'll give it 1 point out of 5.
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Re: A Hater Revisits Voyager
From what I understand it was her long hair and the reason they adopted it were two-fold. One was the fact that Lien was having allergic reactions to the ears and so her hair covering them up was the solution. And the second reason is she was growing up. So they wanted to make her look less like a waif and more adult. It also explains why Kes wore the tighter fitting costume. It was because like most teenagers.young adults, she was coming into her own. |
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Location: Lynx Empire
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But I liked the hair-braid too.
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There was a lot of good hair going on at that dinner table! |
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Location: Totally different head. Totally.
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(Trivia: the actress who plays the Doc's wife, Wendy Schaal, also plays the voice of Francine, the wife on 'American Dad.') |
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Re: A Hater Revisits Voyager
One big downside of this episode, though, is the circumstance described by Praetor here:
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Sorry for that, of course the name for the episode is:






