Kirk's early years. - Page 2

M'Sharak · April 21 2009, 08:03 PM

Omega_Glory wrote:

And another thing. Kirk is 20 years old when the Enterprise encounters the Talosians in The Cage and Menagarie I & II (Deadly Years-age 34 & Menagarie-13yrs before TOS). Is he less than 20 during this movie?

Only in the Corvette scene, where he looks to be about twelve or thirteen. The bulk of the story in this movie appears to take place when Kirk is in his mid-to-late twenties.

urbandk · April 21 2009, 08:29 PM

Finnegan, proving that sprightly Irish stereotypes will persist well into the 23rd century.

Jackson_Roykirk · April 21 2009, 08:41 PM

urbandk wrote:

Finnegan, proving that sprightly Irish stereotypes will persist well into the 23rd century.

Yeah -- Finnegan detested Kirk for being "Always after me Lucky Charms".

Qonos · April 21 2009, 09:18 PM

Starship Polaris wrote:

The Wormhole wrote:

Sadly, it seems as thought the movie is neglecting characters of depth and complexity such as Gary Mitchell, Ben Finney, and Finnegan.

You're a master satirist, or at least you can pass as one around here.

AKA People who were written as having a background with Kirk cause the story called for it... and they were the villian of the week.

The Wormhole · April 21 2009, 11:11 PM

Qonos wrote:

Starship Polaris wrote:

The Wormhole wrote:

Sadly, it seems as thought the movie is neglecting characters of depth and complexity such as Gary Mitchell, Ben Finney, and Finnegan.

You're a master satirist, or at least you can pass as one around here.

AKA People who were written as having a background with Kirk cause the story called for it... and they were the villian of the week.

"Villain of the week"? That's a surprisingly simplistic way to think of characters with such depth and complexity who are also a key component of the grand tapestry of what Star Trek is. Next you'll be telling me that Garrovick has no relevance to Star Trek's core essentials either.

Admiral Buzzkill · April 22 2009, 01:09 AM

Valar wrote:

"you can't fight a dirty soul with a clean one"

Is that a quote? It does sound so typically Carey - plausibly formulated, rhetorically overreaching and hollow as a drum.

Valar · April 22 2009, 07:01 AM

Starship Polaris wrote:

Valar wrote:

"you can't fight a dirty soul with a clean one"

Is that a quote? It does sound so typically Carey - plausibly formulated, rhetorically overreaching and hollow as a drum.

lol, yeah it's a direct quote- Capt April talking to young Kirk about why he's needed on the right side of the law/starfleet. I found her writing to be simple, effective, but with an undercurrent of the "rugged individualism" themes the average Republican espouses.

April 21 2009, 08:29 PM	#17
urbandk Commodore Location: the European "canon" is here	Re: Kirk's early years. Finnegan, proving that sprightly Irish stereotypes will persist well into the 23rd century. __________________

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