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Old April 17 2009, 08:36 PM   #76
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Re: episodes that are part of two different TV series

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Also, several characters from St. Elsewhere once appeared on Cheers, and since St. Elsewhere is just a figment of an autistic child's imagination, then Cheers, Frasier, The Tortellis, and Wings are also a figment of the child's imagination.
More likely, the St Elsewhere characters are real people that appeared on Cheers and also encountered the autistic boy at some point, thus leading to the autistic boy integrating them into his own fantasy life.
Exactly. Just because Tommy Westphall dreamed something (like St. Elsewhere) doesn't mean it didn't really happen. Obviously some differences would have to occur, given who Tommy's father and grandfather turn out to be, but the bulk of things can still be the same.

Besides, some crossovers which appear to be the case obviously cannot really be such. For instance, John Munch appeared on The X-Files, which is itself fictional within the shared Homicide/L&O universe (in an early H:LOTS ep, Munch says something about "on Friday nights, most people are home watching X-Files").
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Old April 17 2009, 08:42 PM   #77
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Re: episodes that are part of two different TV series

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Also, several characters from St. Elsewhere once appeared on Cheers, and since St. Elsewhere is just a figment of an autistic child's imagination, then Cheers, Frasier, The Tortellis, and Wings are also a figment of the child's imagination.
More likely, the St Elsewhere characters are real people that appeared on Cheers and also encountered the autistic boy at some point, thus leading to the autistic boy integrating them into his own fantasy life.
Exactly. Just because Tommy Westphall dreamed something (like St. Elsewhere) doesn't mean it didn't really happen. Obviously some differences would have to occur, given who Tommy's father and grandfather turn out to be, but the bulk of things can still be the same.

Besides, some crossovers which appear to be the case obviously cannot really be such. For instance, John Munch appeared on The X-Files, which is itself fictional within the shared Homicide/L&O universe (in an early H:LOTS ep, Munch says something about "on Friday nights, most people are home watching X-Files").
Well, as pointed out, just because a show called "X-Files" exsists in their universe doesn't necessairly mean it is "OUR" X-Files.
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Old April 17 2009, 08:44 PM   #78
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Re: episodes that are part of two different TV series

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Well, as pointed out, just because a show called "X-Files" exsists in their universe doesn't necessairly mean it is "OUR" X-Files.
I think that's stretching it just a bit too far. You know, Occam's Razor and all that.

Although if you want to run with that: Just because a detective named John Munch appeared on X-Files doesn't mean it's the same John Munch from L&O/Homicide...
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Old April 17 2009, 09:24 PM   #79
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Well, as pointed out, just because a show called "X-Files" exsists in their universe doesn't necessairly mean it is "OUR" X-Files.
I think that's stretching it just a bit too far. You know, Occam's Razor and all that.

Although if you want to run with that: Just because a detective named John Munch appeared on X-Files doesn't mean it's the same John Munch from L&O/Homicide...
Ah, but we're shown in the X-Files episode a very similar style and setting as the series meaning we're supposed to infer both are "in the same universe. But having a show called "X-Files" in Homicide's universe doesn't preclude the exsistance of Mulder and Scully and their adventures as we're never given any details of the show other than one of that name exsists.



But, for the "fun" of this exercise I think we can ignore these little slips in contnuity. (Along with George watching "MAY" in Seinfeld and other slips in the shows.)
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Old April 17 2009, 09:25 PM   #80
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Re: episodes that are part of two different TV series

there is one good example.

if you look on Poobala, you can trace Friends to Cheers, via Fraiser & another TV show, which is all very well until you consider that in the episodes of Friends set in London, Joey is watching Cheers.

ooh & apparntly the King of Queens, features Becker in one episode, but then a few years later, has Doug refer to it as a TV show
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Old April 17 2009, 09:48 PM   #81
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Okay, an encounter between James T. Kirk and Samantha Stevens is too much even for MY brain. Never mind what follows after Endora casts a spell on Maurice and turns him into an Orangutan named "Zaius".
Just a little bit of trivia. Samantha's father, Maurice, was much more powerful than Endora. He once sent her and two of Sam's Aunts to the top of Mount Everest and prevented them from leaving.

I watched way to much daytime TV as a kid.
You just don't want to mess with Dr. Zaius.
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Old April 17 2009, 11:56 PM   #82
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Re: episodes that are part of two different TV series

Here's one that never actually happened:

Don Bellisario wanted to do an episode of Quantum Leap where Sam leaps in as Thomas Magnum from Magnum, P.I.. But there was an episode earlier in the series where a character is seen watching that show on T.V.
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Old April 18 2009, 01:24 AM   #83
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Problem is your original crossover idea seemed limited to -oddly- series' shows that appeared on another series' DVD set. We've taken that idea and expanded it to something more worthy of discussion.
It's just more fun to link shows in this manner than to talk about what show appeared in another's DVD set. Because such an occurance doesn't really mark the episode as being part of two series as doing such a thing is really a marketing gimmick.
You misunderstand my reason for starting this thread. It wasn't my "original crossover idea". My idea had nothing to do with crossovers. I wish to write a list of all the episodes, movies, novels, comics, reference books and video games in a franchise, kind of like this list here:
http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/List_...tar_Wars_media
Ideally, everything in the list should be arranged in order of release but there are some TV shows like Firefly that were shown in an order that doesn't make sense and were release on DVD in a different order. Unaired pilot episodes were never shown on TV at all. This is the reason for two of my recent threads:
http://www.trekbbs.com/showthread.php?t=87660
http://www.trekbbs.com/showthread.php?t=87659
In these situations, using DVD order is preferrable. But DVD order can't be used if some episodes exist on more than one DVD collection. Therefore, there needs to be something special about a DVD collection for DVD order to supersedes airdate order. The DVD collection must have deleted scenes, or it must be a Blu-Ray collection. Either way works for Firefly. But if I find an episode that exists in two different DVD collections and BOTH of those collections have deleted scenes then this rule won't work and I'll have to think of a different rule.

That's my original reason for this thread. Bizarre, isn't it?
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Old April 18 2009, 01:41 AM   #84
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That's my original reason for this thread. Bizarre, isn't it?
Very.

And this from a guy who rationalized that Boston Legal is in the same universe as Seinfeld.
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