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Old April 16 2009, 10:11 PM   #16
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Re: Was Tuvok born on Vulcan?

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I'm sorry if anybody actually read my spoiler without wanting to. I thought if I revealed it was from Trek XI, it would be too obvious. I fixed it.

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Well, according to Memory Alpha, which cites several episodes of Voyager, he was born on the Vulcanis Lunar Colony.
We don't know exactly where that is, do we? We do know that Vulcan has no moon of course. So it can't be in Vulcan orbit. If it were, my spoiler would apply.
Well, the problem was always to reconcile what Spock said in TOS ("Vulcan has no moon") with the very obvious celestial bodies in Yesteryear and TMP (theater's cut). It may sound silly, but I always like the explanation from Spock's World: the bodies are Vulcan's sister planet (the name was T'Khut) and its moon (which name I can't remember), complete with the quote: "Well, techinally, Vulcan has no moon." "Damn right it doesn’t, it has a nightmare." So the Vulcanis Lunar Colony could be on that body, and everything would fit.
The fact that Vulcan had a twin planet could even be linked to why the Romulans choose a double planet to settle on: it would be the most similar to their own.
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Old April 16 2009, 10:24 PM   #17
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Re: Was Tuvok born on Vulcan?

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I don't recall when (if ever) Tuvok's actual birthplace was ever stated. Was he born on Vulcan?

The reason I ask this is (WARNING: STAR TREK XI SPOILER AHEAD, I'M NOT KIDDING, DON'T READ THIS IF YOU DON'T LIKE SPOILERS, I AM NOT RESPONSIBLE IF YOU DO READ IT, MAJOR STAR TREK XI SPOILER IS APPROACHING):

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Old April 16 2009, 10:27 PM   #18
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Re: Was Tuvok born on Vulcan?

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Babaganoosh wrote: View Post
I'm sorry if anybody actually read my spoiler without wanting to. I thought if I revealed it was from Trek XI, it would be too obvious. I fixed it.

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Well, according to Memory Alpha, which cites several episodes of Voyager, he was born on the Vulcanis Lunar Colony.
We don't know exactly where that is, do we? We do know that Vulcan has no moon of course. So it can't be in Vulcan orbit. If it were, my spoiler would apply.
Well, the problem was always to reconcile what Spock said in TOS ("Vulcan has no moon") with the very obvious celestial bodies in Yesteryear and TMP (theater's cut). It may sound silly, but I always like the explanation from Spock's World: the bodies are Vulcan's sister planet (the name was T'Khut) and its moon (which name I can't remember), complete with the quote: "Well, techinally, Vulcan has no moon." "Damn right it doesn’t, it has a nightmare." So the Vulcanis Lunar Colony could be on that body, and everything would fit.
The fact that Vulcan had a twin planet could even be linked to why the Romulans choose a double planet to settle on: it would be the most similar to their own.
That works for me.
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Old April 16 2009, 10:49 PM   #19
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Re: Was Tuvok born on Vulcan?

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I don't recall when (if ever) Tuvok's actual birthplace was ever stated. Was he born on Vulcan?

The reason I ask this is (WARNING: STAR TREK XI SPOILER AHEAD, I'M NOT KIDDING, DON'T READ THIS IF YOU DON'T LIKE SPOILERS, I AM NOT RESPONSIBLE IF YOU DO READ IT, MAJOR STAR TREK XI SPOILER IS APPROACHING):

Well, yes but...
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Old April 17 2009, 03:42 AM   #20
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Re: Was Tuvok born on Vulcan?

Would it be in the Mars?
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Old April 17 2009, 05:12 AM   #21
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No more spoilery Trek XI stuff in here. Go here for that.
Grrrr, I hate not being able to click spoiler buttons.
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Old April 17 2009, 05:32 AM   #22
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I don't know how it can be a spoiler if the movie is never, and I do mean NEVER going to get out of post?
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Old April 17 2009, 06:43 AM   #23
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Re: Was Tuvok born on Vulcan?

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No more spoilery Trek XI stuff in here. Go here for that.
Grrrr, I hate not being able to click spoiler buttons.
Hey, but it's *extremely* important to Tuvie-fans to find a solution to this problem! ;-)
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Old April 17 2009, 07:39 AM   #24
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He travels back in time to become Kelly Bundy's doorman.
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Old April 18 2009, 12:45 AM   #25
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Old April 18 2009, 01:22 AM   #26
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Old April 18 2009, 07:56 AM   #27
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I always assumed it was a Vulcan colony on Earth's moon, Luna.
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Old April 18 2009, 02:57 PM   #28
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I always assumed it was a Vulcan colony on Earth's moon, Luna.
Oh! Simple yet brilliant! I like that!
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Old April 20 2009, 03:14 AM   #29
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I dunno how canon promos are, but in the Home Promo for Voyager's final season Tuvok states his "home" as "Vulcan".
Home is where you make it, so if he at one time moved back to Vulcan, then Vulcan is his home.
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Old April 22 2009, 08:41 PM   #30
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Re: Was Tuvok born on Vulcan?

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I always assumed it was a Vulcan colony on Earth's moon, Luna.
Oh! Simple yet brilliant! I like that!
But why would the Vulcans do that - build one of *their* colonies in *our* star system? Where's the...logic?

I mean, the Moon hasn't been terraformed, not even in the 24th century. Remember that DS9 ep with the Red Squad cadets? One of them lived on the Moon, and she said that you still needed suits to breathe on its surface. So why would the Vulcans go to all the trouble of building a colony there? If it was one of their own moons, then I can see it, but it's ours. So what would they be doing there?
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