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Old April 16 2009, 12:23 PM   #31
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Re: Lost 5x13: "Some Like It Hoth"

Technically, the Above Average episode only robbed you of fortyish minutes. The other twentyish were robbed of you by commercials.
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Old April 16 2009, 12:42 PM   #32
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Wow. Three excellents in a row. This show is in high gear now!
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Old April 16 2009, 12:47 PM   #33
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I'm also really glad we're getting to see more of Dr. Chang. I was a big fan of the Wing Commander games back in the '90s, and I had a huge geek moment when Francois Chau showed up on those Dharma orientation videos way back in the early days of the show. He played a pilot named Winston "Vagabond" Chang (what a coinkidink) in Wing Commander III and Wing Commander IV.
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Old April 16 2009, 01:13 PM   #34
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So I wasn't clear on it in the episode, but when he goes to see his mother for her confession about his father... was she dead and was he talking to her ghost?
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Old April 16 2009, 01:19 PM   #35
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I gave this an Above Average, which is a bit of a step down from last week's Ben and Locke-fest. Still a good episode though.

After reading here about the title and the link to Empire Strikes Back I wasn't so surprised about Miles being Chang's son. Hurley 'writing' ESB for George Lucas though was funny as hell. Especially the bit about if Luke had just *talked* to Vadar, we wouldn't have had Ewoks!

Hurley's numbers being etched onto the 'new' hatch was creepy, as were the new players that picked up Miles in the van and told him he was playing for the wrong team. 'What's in the shadow of the statue?' I don't know! Again! It's got me intrigued anyway. They have nothing to do with Widmore, but I don't think they have anything to do with Ben either. Miles told them he wanted double what Widmore offered him, which turned out to be $3.2 million. Ben didn't know why 3.2 was significant back when Miles demanded it in season 4. I guess it also means the people from last week aren't diseased.

Curiouser and curiouser.
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Old April 16 2009, 01:30 PM   #36
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I completely missed this; the dude who abducts Miles into the van and talks about the shadow of the statue... is the same dude who gets the guns and talks about the shadow of the statue will Illana in the present day Ajira crash survivors camp!
Yes. And I want to know how they knew to get on that plane since obviously they did. And why grab Sayid?

Are they working for Ben or know they had to get Sayid on the plane to increase the chances of ending up on the Island?
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Old April 16 2009, 01:37 PM   #37
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Did anyone else get the impression that the sounds that were being made when Miles could hear the dead sounded like the Smoke Monster? Smokey can read the thoughts of the dead, so maybe Miles became connected with the smoke monster while he was on the Island as an infant somehow, and that gave him his "gift."

This episode only gets an average from me, despite being funny at points. It didn't really reveal anything I hadn't already guessed, and seemed to be more of a set-up for upcoming events.
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Old April 16 2009, 02:00 PM   #38
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Wow. Three excellents in a row. This show is in high gear now!
Ok, help me understand. What about it did you see as excellent?

I sincerely want to know, I'm not looking for a fight. I'm trying to understand what happened that I apparently missed that was so excellent.

Aside from a few moments with Hurley, and the part where they were putting the numbers on the hatch, I couldn't see that anything really happened. The guys in the van were mildly interesting because it was like "Ok who are they and who are THEY working for?" But other than that, I just don't see the attraction. Certainly not worthy of an excellent compared to last week's show.
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Old April 16 2009, 02:26 PM   #39
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Great things about the ep: learning the backstory of Miles who's been a mystery for 1.5 years now. confirming Chang is Miles' Father. the Miles n Hurley comedy hour. the mysterious death connected to the Swan (ok this turned out to be mundane!). the relationship between Horace, Chang, and the "circle of trust". Naomi's return. The introduction of a new faction in the series (New Dharma?). Roger being a complete dick to Jack who was nice enough to work his shift for him. Daniel's surprise return (I was expecting to finally meet the DeGroots there).
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Old April 16 2009, 02:44 PM   #40
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Above average. Lost is in this great production mode where it cranks about above average episodes more consistently than I think I've ever seen any series before. And, I'm a pretty tough reviewer to impress. This series has just been a total joy for quite some time now. They've particularly excelled at having interesting plot developments nearly every single episode AND keeping their characters interesting at the same time. Kudos to all involved.

I don't have many comments about the story. Interesting but not surprising that Chang is Mile's dad. Obviously we'll be seeing the incident where Mile's mom runs away with baby Miles and adult Mile's will see that incident in an entirely different light. The banter between Miles and Hurley was particularly amusing. Kind of neat seeing the hatch being built and stamped. Guessing that it was a strong magnetic field that pulled the crown through that guys brain.

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Old April 16 2009, 02:53 PM   #41
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The biggest shocker this evening: Widmore is NOT behind Illana and the "shadow of the statute" conspiracy. So that leaves A) Ben, B) Modern Day Dharma, C) unknown new party.
I thought about Modern Day Dharma as a possibility.
I think that's the most logical answer. That doesn't mean it's necessarily correct.

But, consider, we know it's not Widmore and it's probably not Ben. Dharma was a well funded, large operation. Sure, it's people were killed on the island but that doesn't mean the organization would've suddenly ceased to exist. A lot of the science results would've been transfered off the island regularly, meaning much of it would've survived the purge. Dharma has to have been doing something in those years with all of their resources, knowledge of the island, and the time!

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Old April 16 2009, 02:57 PM   #42
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So I wasn't clear on it in the episode, but when he goes to see his mother for her confession about his father... was she dead and was he talking to her ghost?
No, she was alive but dying. Miles can't talk to the dead, he can only hear what is recorded in their brain. It's not interactive like that conversation with his Mom was.

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Old April 16 2009, 03:21 PM   #43
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Great things about the ep: learning the backstory of Miles who's been a mystery for 1.5 years now. confirming Chang is Miles' Father.
I guess I just didn't realize it was that big of a mystery. Everything with Miles last night was kind of "well Duh, already new that." Nothing we hadn't already figured out. If they would have shown how or why Miles has that ability it would have been more interesting.

the Miles n Hurley comedy hour.
Clearly the best part of the episode and I'd admit to enjoying that part.

the mysterious death connected to the Swan (ok this turned out to be mundane!). the relationship between Horace, Chang, and the "circle of trust". Naomi's return. The introduction of a new faction in the series (New Dharma?). Roger being a complete dick to Jack who was nice enough to work his shift for him. Daniel's surprise return (I was expecting to finally meet the DeGroots there).
Found that all to be pretty boring. Especially all the Dharma stuff since we know ultimately what's going to happen to them and it can't be changed. What happened, happened.

The (possibly) new faction is somewhat interesting (I figure it's part of Ben's organization actually) but for the most part I'm past caring about all the cloak and dagger bullshit.

EDIT TO ADD: I also wondered if the writers know that fillings in teeth are not made of magnetic metals.
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Old April 16 2009, 03:59 PM   #44
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^not even in the mid to late 70s?


i enjoyed this episode alot. I really do think Brahm and Illana are in cahoots with Ben. Ben almost always has a contingency plan. so this has got to be it.
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Old April 16 2009, 04:11 PM   #45
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Wow. Three excellents in a row. This show is in high gear now!
Ok, help me understand. What about it did you see as excellent?

I sincerely want to know, I'm not looking for a fight. I'm trying to understand what happened that I apparently missed that was so excellent.

Aside from a few moments with Hurley, and the part where they were putting the numbers on the hatch, I couldn't see that anything really happened. The guys in the van were mildly interesting because it was like "Ok who are they and who are THEY working for?" But other than that, I just don't see the attraction. Certainly not worthy of an excellent compared to last week's show.
1. Sawyer is about to be exposed.
2. Bram and the "what lies in the shadow of the statue"
3. Hurley/Miles
4. The fact that every person on the show has daddy issues now. That has to come into play in the finale, right?
5. The return of Daniel. I honestly thought he wasn't going to recognize Miles. That would have been trippy.
6. Characters finally interacting with Dr. Chang
7. Miles FINALLY gets some more flashback
8. What are they doing with bodies at The Orchid?

I just liked it. I like Lost no matter what, usually, though.
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