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View Poll Results: What sort of world government do you want?
All the nations of the world become sub-states of one democratic union. 21 31.34%
The United States peacefully takes control of the entire world. 3 4.48%
The United States violently takes control of the entire world. 3 4.48%
Everyone in the world joins Planet Mac ( http://www.planetmac.net.tc/ ). 0 0%
There should be a world revolution, resulting in the death of all countries. 0 0%
Jonathanland should peacefully take control of the world. 0 0%
Jonathanland should violently take control of the world. 0 0%
The United Nations becomes a country and acts as the world government. 1 1.49%
Other. 6 8.96%
I don't think that there should be a world government. 33 49.25%
Voters: 67. You may not vote on this poll

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Old April 11 2009, 03:16 PM   #31
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Re: World government.

John Picard wrote: View Post
Really, people don't want a cultural identity? If that's the case, why did a bunch of immigrants (illegal and legal) rally in California a couple of years ago, waving the Mexican flag?
I didn't say that. People will still have, and want, identities of their own. But they will not necessarily faction off into their own completely separate countries. They can have some sense of identity even when they're part of a larger group.

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What if the world government imposes some changes on the US? Would you be as keen on it then? Remember it is a world government and not a western government, so it may be more aligned with communist ideologies, or sympathetic to Islamic Sharia law and order, and maybe other cultures that might seem alien to a western person?
I'm hypothesizing that the world government won't do that. For the most part, governments such as the US, UK, France, Germany, etc. are tolerant of religious and cultural differences within themselves. Assuming this is just like that, writ large, I'd have no problem with that.

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Jonathanland is a country in North America.
Yeah, right, like that lameass 'Sealand' which is some abandoned oil rig with like six people living on it?
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Old April 11 2009, 05:59 PM   #32
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Re: World government.

^How can there be land at ''sea''?
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Old April 11 2009, 07:07 PM   #33
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Re: World government.

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^How can there be land at ''sea''?
Trust me, the truth is even funnier than that. Linky

I mean, they even had various groups *fighting* over this piece of shit! How funny is that?
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Old April 11 2009, 07:13 PM   #34
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It depends on who runs it and how.
I would vote for MODMAN! 'cause after all, he runs this shit!!1!
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Old April 11 2009, 10:29 PM   #35
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Re: World government.

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^How can there be land at ''sea''?
Trust me, the truth is even funnier than that. Linky

I mean, they even had various groups *fighting* over this piece of shit! How funny is that?
Saw the linky! Honestly I don't know wether I should or cry!
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Old April 11 2009, 11:08 PM   #36
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Re: World government.

I know what Sealand is, Sealand is fake.
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Old April 11 2009, 11:10 PM   #37
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No world government. It would be one of the biggest disasters the world had ever seen.
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Old April 12 2009, 12:24 AM   #38
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No world government. It would be one of the biggest disasters the world had ever seen.
''Oh my GAWD the END-TIME'S c'here! quick! run N hide, JEZUS is super P.O'D at us for talking SMART!
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Old April 12 2009, 12:59 AM   #39
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Re: World government.

I vote that the Borg come and assimilate us all into a collective.
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Old April 12 2009, 03:12 AM   #40
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No world government. It would be one of the biggest disasters the world had ever seen.
''Oh my GAWD the END-TIME'S c'here! quick! run N hide, JEZUS is super P.O'D at us for talking SMART!
Yep, something like that
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Old April 12 2009, 04:29 AM   #41
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No world government. It would be one of the biggest disasters the world had ever seen.
''Oh my GAWD the END-TIME'S c'here! quick! run N hide, JEZUS is super P.O'D at us for talking SMART!
Yep, something like that
In case anywhos missed it, I was quoten ''SQUIDBILLIES'' thar!
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Old April 12 2009, 05:39 AM   #42
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I vote that the Borg come and assimilate us all into a collective.
The Borg is no longer a threat.
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Old April 12 2009, 07:47 AM   #43
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"World Government" is one of those ideas that may possibly sound appealing to some people, but it's like many abstractions in that it sounds like a good thing that nobody could have a problem with. Like the word 'unity"...it's a word that doesn't mean much if it's not in context, and dangerous because of that. The word "balance" also...people see it as positive but it actually is rather meaningless without context.

So, no, I don't see the need to have a world government. It may just sound good but we never really need it.
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Old April 12 2009, 03:50 PM   #44
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Re: World government.

I'm curious. Do any of the same people who think we don't need a world government think that the United States (or, depending on your own location, your own 'federated' government) doesn't need *its* government and that all of the states should be individual countries?
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Old April 12 2009, 04:48 PM   #45
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In some countries there is such a thing as devolution. People feel more confident with local administration. They know that with that, their needs won't be ignored as readily, even though it costs them more in overheads.

One of the fears of broader governments is that revenue which your locality generates, gets diverted away from your locality towards the 'wealthier' and 'popular' areas.

Such happens all the time: The roads in your town get maintained, but the ones in the town centre get the most attention because they're on public view, and the towns "image" is judged on those. If you live on the fringes of the town, your road might be in poor condition, and it rarely get maintained because it's out of public view, so it's a low priority and it gets routinely ignored.
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