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Old April 9 2009, 03:26 AM   #31
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Re: Lost 5x12: "Dead is Dead"

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Yeah, but this time I started thinking seriously about whther or not the smoke monster simply poses as someone else or if the dead person is somehow "alive" through the smoke minster. I got to thinking that because it would be nice for Alex to know that Ben only said what he said to Keamy to try and save her.
This is my opinion, but I believe that since these people died on the Island, the smoke monster can appear as these people and also contains all their thoughts and memories, so it can pretend to be these people.

OR it could be that it has for a short period of time re-animated them but are basically possessed by the smoke monster.

It is also possible that it isn't the smoke monster that is controlling them at all, it could be Jacob looking like these dead people.
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Old April 9 2009, 03:27 AM   #32
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The entire episode was a classic LOST lead-up to killing someone. It had flashbacks of his life, showing all of his various sins. We learned almost every answer about him we were dying to know. He's looking back on his life and realizing the mistakes he's made. And he's heading to judgment with Cerebus. So him NOT dying is actually the shocking plot twist!
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Yeah, but this time I started thinking seriously about whther or not the smoke monster simply poses as someone else or if the dead person is somehow "alive" through the smoke minster.
So what happens when we follow Locke through the rest of this season and next. Then in the series finale they come across a casket. And in this casket is the body of John Locke. They look up just in time to see the John Locke they have been following dissolve into a mist and float away.

What a mind game that would be.
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Old April 9 2009, 03:30 AM   #34
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I think it temporarily physically ressurecting someone only to kill them off again would be a little... cruel. Howabout when he eats the body he also consumes the soul, and that soul becomes a part of its collective consciousness, which it can call up when need be. This would explain why it only appears as dead people (this would mean Claire is dead though). Either that or it's just using the person's memories to create an interpretation of the person it's appearing as.
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Yeah, but this time I started thinking seriously about whther or not the smoke monster simply poses as someone else or if the dead person is somehow "alive" through the smoke minster.
So what happens when we follow Locke through the rest of this season and next. Then in the series finale they come across a casket. And in this casket is the body of John Locke. They look up just in time to see the John Locke they have been following dissolve into a mist and float away.

What a mind game that would be.
I thought about that, what if Locke is indeed dead, and he is like these dead people we keep seeing, and is possessed by either the smoke monster or jacob.
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Old April 9 2009, 03:32 AM   #36
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From my viewing, the bullet hit the grocery bag and not Des at all. I didn't see any hits on his body.
Yeah, maybe he did get shot in the bag, I don't know. I just thought it was funny how he went down and then we see him attack Ben. It was very "TV"
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Old April 9 2009, 03:33 AM   #37
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Well it seems like Christian and Locke are the two exceptions to the rules, that they were literally ressurected body and soul by the Island because they're the chosen leaders or whatever. On the other hand, since we saw Alex having a physical body here for a moment, I guess that means Christian (picking up the photo frame) isn't so special after all. So Locke is the ONLY ressurected guy, which is what Ben said in this episode.

Incidentally, Ben is unaware of Christian's (new) existance as far as I'm aware. In this episode Sun tells him a crazy old man named Christian told them to wait here, but he didn't seem to give any reaction to this.
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In this episode Sun tells him a crazy old man named Christian told them to wait here, but he didn't seem to give any reaction to this.
actually he did give a classic Ben reaction to this, he turned his head and had a weird stare on his face right when she said that
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I took Ben's non-reaction to the mention of Christian to mean that Ben did in fact know about him.
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Ben doesn't like to let other people think he doesn't know what is going on, and he likes to listen and gather info but never give it out, if he admitted he thought what Sun said was odd they would know something is up with that, Ben wouldn't let someone think its a big deal in the first place, cause Ben wants control over that knowledge and manipulate events.
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Excellent

A step up from last week.
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Hmm...re-watching...slightly suspicous how Locke disappears and smokey appears....hmmmm
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Hmm...re-watching...slightly suspicous how Locke disappears and smokey appears....hmmmm
I think the writers just wanted John out of the way so he doesn't see the monster again quite yet. I have a feeling that there's another big confrontation between Locke and the monster on its way.
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Yeah, but this time I started thinking seriously about whther or not the smoke monster simply poses as someone else or if the dead person is somehow "alive" through the smoke minster.
So what happens when we follow Locke through the rest of this season and next. Then in the series finale they come across a casket. And in this casket is the body of John Locke. They look up just in time to see the John Locke they have been following dissolve into a mist and float away.

What a mind game that would be.
Wouldn't be the first similarity either.
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I'd be disappointed if it turns out Locke was just a Cerberus manifestation, but it's a very plausible theory.
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