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Old April 4 2009, 07:01 PM   #91
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Re: Lost 5x11: "Whatever Happened, Happened"

Anyone else think that it was weird that Alpert said that Ben would no longer be an "innocent?" Seemed like a very purposeful use of the word. Makes me wonder if the Eden theory is true and in a truly mind-fucking moment it turns out the islanders are the original seed for human life on Earth! Ok not really, but I really am curious what exactly Richard Alpert meant by no longer being an innocent. Is there a crazy cow woman on the island with a magic vagina that heals people?
She's so great. I feel like I can almost remember the magical thing I did to make her love me. But I guess I never will.
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Old April 4 2009, 10:29 PM   #92
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Re: Lost 5x11: "Whatever Happened, Happened"

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Kate and Sawyer's girlfriend meeting up is the kind of thing we haven't seen much of in Lost. What I mean is the characters usually never realize their connections to others.
True, and they don't usually notice all the little coincidences that keep happening to them, but Jack was starting to notice before he and the others returned to the island.
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Old April 4 2009, 10:42 PM   #93
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Re: Lost 5x11: "Whatever Happened, Happened"

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My working theory on Penny: Widmore has been running an Off-Island life creating his corporation for decades and Penny was raised in the real world as such. It was only in 1992 when the Purge happened that Ben became the leader of the Others and kicked out Widmore, claiming that Jacob (who only Ben can see) told him that Widmore has to Donkey Wheel the Island safely away from Dharma.
To which a normal person would stare blankly for a moment then respond, "Seriously, Ben, I have no f*cking clue what you're talking about."

"Whatever Happened, Crappened." Probably my least favorite episode of the season. Yeah, it was all totally predictable, but there were a few good bits, like the last few seconds.

Can someone tell me what happened after Locke said hello to Ben? That was the point my kids started screaming.
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Old April 5 2009, 12:22 AM   #94
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Re: Lost 5x11: "Whatever Happened, Happened"

Can someone tell me what happened after Locke said hello to Ben? That was the point my kids started screaming.
He just said, "Hello Ben. Welcome back to the land of the living." Didn't slit his throat or anything, at least not yet.
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Old April 6 2009, 02:33 PM   #95
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Re: Lost 5x11: "Whatever Happened, Happened"

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The show's creators always said that LOST was planned from beginning to end - but in a way that was flexible enough to adapt to new ideas and circumstances along the way without sacrificing the Big Plan.

Kinda neat.

The thing is, for me anyway, I just I don't believe them. I'm kind of an asshole in that if you lie to me once, I'm very skeptical of everything you say from there on out. In their case, the "Oh this is not a sci-fi show, everything can be explained through normal science" bullshit line has made me VERY distrustful of anything they say.

They may very well be telling the truth about having it all planned out, but I find it hard to trust them.
The problem as I see it is that IMO the plan was to initially make us think LOST was a standard - if a bit strange - drama, and over time move into the sci-fi arena. So to the creators, it always was a sci-fi show. But one that kept it's powder dry on that front for a while.

But the fans very quickly ('cos we're clever like that!) sussed out that LOST was indeed a sci-fi show - so what could the creators do when confronted? If they admitted it, then we'd have said "Alrighty then! Give us the big sci and indeed fi! And do it now!". But LOST is a slow-burn concept that needed to take it's time to get round to the juicy sci-fi. So they said "Nope! No sci-fi here!". They had to.

That's my take on it, anyway.
Good rationalizaton. But, in reality, the creators knew in broadstrokes where this series was headed. They knew it was going to incorporate SF concepts. Personally, I think they said it wasn't SF in order to keep the audience. Get them hooked and then when the SF concepts became clear, hope the mainstream audience wouldn't leave in droves.

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Old April 6 2009, 10:43 PM   #96
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Re: Lost 5x11: "Whatever Happened, Happened"

^ In a recent interview, Cuse and Lindelof said that they thought that the show would lose some if it's audience this year because of the scifi/time travel elements, they just didn't know how much of a dropoff they'd see.
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Old April 7 2009, 07:20 PM   #97
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^^ Ok, so that fits in with my guess then. They wanted to delay (art of the stall, huh?) that dropoff for awhile.

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