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Old April 5 2009, 01:08 PM   #46
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Re: I liked the Borg more before the Borg Queen and Q before Voyager.

The Borg could have been used very effectively in Voy, for example they could have had their asses handed to them, this would have been good, very good, and I don't know why they didn't pursue this instead of having Voy defeat them with magic at every turn, but I suspect Voy was a conspiracy to intentionally destroy Star Trek.
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Old April 5 2009, 01:16 PM   #47
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Re: I liked the Borg more before the Borg Queen and Q before Voyager.

To be honest, i loved the borg in VOY, they are my favourite enemy, but i agree with you about Q.

Voyager was NEVER a conspiracy!! its my favourite series :P then DS9, then tng, then tos (only becase i have only seen a few episodes :P )
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Old April 6 2009, 01:15 AM   #48
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Re: I liked the Borg more before the Borg Queen and Q before Voyager.

Voyager's mission was part of a Starfleet conspiracy to explore and colonize the Delta Quadrant as an avenue of expansion for Federation territory, even though treaties between the major Alpha Quadrant powers expressly forbid expansion into other areas of the galaxy for this purpose.

Move along, now.
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Old April 6 2009, 02:31 AM   #49
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Re: I liked the Borg more before the Borg Queen and Q before Voyager.

^ don't forget the secret alliance with the Cardassian Union!
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Old April 6 2009, 04:51 AM   #50
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Re: I liked the Borg more before the Borg Queen and Q before Voyager.

You're not supposed to talk about that...

Gul Evek's life counts on your silence!!
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Old April 6 2009, 01:03 PM   #51
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Re: I liked the Borg more before the Borg Queen and Q before Voyager.

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You're not supposed to talk about that...

Gul Evek's life counts on your silence!!

What on earth are you talking about? I didn't mention any alliance I said some people might think that there is a secret alliance when both you and I know that there is no such alliance in place

(That ought to fool 'em!)
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Old April 6 2009, 05:04 PM   #52
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I think I might be the only one who actually enjoyed 'The Voyager Conspiracy' and wished more thought had been put into the cookie crumbs they cited. Then again, it was rather amusing that some of the mysteries Seven defined into her paranoid conspiracy were left ambiguous.
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Old April 6 2009, 05:07 PM   #53
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I think I might be the only one who actually enjoyed 'The Voyager Conspiracy' and wished more thought had been put into the cookie crumbs they cited. Then again, it was rather amusing that some of the mysteries Seven defined into her paranoid conspiracy were left ambiguous.
I too liked that episode, it was great fun!
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Old April 6 2009, 05:50 PM   #54
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Re: I liked the Borg more before the Borg Queen and Q before Voyager.

And then there were two...
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Old April 6 2009, 09:39 PM   #55
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Re: I liked the Borg more before the Borg Queen and Q before Voyager.

It's like I said, the Borg HAD to be powered down for use in VOY since otherwise the show would be over in 1 minute or so.

VOY wasn't allowed to create it's own nemesis race (like TNG had with the Romulans/Borg/Cardassians or DS9 with the Dominion), so they had to fall back on existing ones. The Borg were the only ones that qualified for VOY's situation and since no one would've tuned in for a story of VOY dealing with alien refugees fleeing the Borg they had to have them square off with the Borg themselves.

Thus, the power-down.
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Old April 6 2009, 10:54 PM   #56
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^I have to agree. It's really a shame the VGR writers and producers weren't able to come up with a more original, interesting Villain (tm) race for the series, rather than relying on the Borg. I remember reading someplace that the producers set the series in the DQ expressly in case the ratings started to tank and they need to bring out the Borg.
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Old April 7 2009, 01:34 AM   #57
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Re: I liked the Borg more before the Borg Queen and Q before Voyager.

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^I have to agree. It's really a shame the VGR writers and producers weren't able to come up with a more original, interesting Villain (tm) race for the series, rather than relying on the Borg. I remember reading someplace that the producers set the series in the DQ expressly in case the ratings started to tank and they need to bring out the Borg.
yeah. delta quad should have been a goldmine for unusual races, creative villains. they shouldn't have to travel to another dimension to find a freaky adversary. i wish they could have sped things along and gotten back to the alpha quadrant. too bad warp 10 turns you into a salamander.
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Old April 7 2009, 02:33 AM   #58
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Re: I liked the Borg more before the Borg Queen and Q before Voyager.

They did bring us a bunch of new races, it's just that the viewers hated all of them and wanted the older ones from the Alpha Quadrant. So VOY had to keep falling back on the only race from prior series they could use.
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Old April 7 2009, 03:19 AM   #59
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Re: I liked the Borg more before the Borg Queen and Q before Voyager.

In fairness, they did almost all suck.
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Old April 7 2009, 03:30 AM   #60
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^Well, that's what I was saying. It's a shame they couldn't create one that was interesting enough to catch on.
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