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Battlestar Galactica & Caprica This forum was created by man. It rebelled. It evolved. And it has a plan.

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Old March 26 2009, 04:35 AM   #616
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Re: Was the ending realistic?

The colonials forgot the lessons of the First Cylon War just forty years later. If human history proves anything, it's that we have short memories of the past. 150,000 years is a gods damned miracle, really.
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Old March 26 2009, 04:39 AM   #617
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Re: Was the ending realistic?

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The colonials forgot the lessons of the First Cylon War just forty years later.
How so?

Yes, they were still using technology, but they weren't building robots with AI to do their bidding.
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Old March 26 2009, 04:44 AM   #618
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I thought the finale was excellent!
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Old March 26 2009, 04:45 AM   #619
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The colonials forgot the lessons of the First Cylon War just forty years later.
How so?

Yes, they were still using technology, but they weren't building robots with AI to do their bidding.
As the behavior of Baltar and everyone else in the miniseries suggests, they were networking their computers again and well on their way to repeating the same mistakes. At least, that's my read on the scenario.
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Old March 26 2009, 07:34 AM   #620
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Re: Battlestar Galactica Series Finale: "Daybreak, Part II"

http://tv.yahoo.com/blog/battlestar-...stions--200?nc

Great article that sums up my feelings about the finale pretty well. I did give it an average, but I would have/should have given it an excellent.
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Old March 26 2009, 08:21 AM   #621
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Re: Battlestar Galactica Series Finale: "Daybreak, Part II"

After reading that article, I'm thinking that I should have given it an Average, rather than excellent. Anyway, given all the glaring faults of the finale, I was/am still very impressed by it.
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Old March 26 2009, 02:20 PM   #622
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From the article...
Isn't it an amazing coincidence that not only human life, but animal life as well, evolved exactly the same way on different planets light-years apart?
So even though we can't find existence of any kind of similar life outside of Earth, we're supposed to believe that Caprica evolved in exactly the same way, with humans looking identical as us (and sounding it, too) and even animals (like those pigeons we saw so much of in the final episodes) being the same? With the only real differences between us and them being that they liked to cut the corners off of their paper goods and say "frak" instead of our preferred F-word? And that the original 13th tribe also had a society that looked remarkably like ours, but with humanoid Cylons thrown into the mix? What. Are. The. Odds. Wasn't this supposed to be a science-fiction show?
If he thought about it a little more, he'd probably come up with a better answer. Maybe humans were transplanted to different worlds at some point in the past. Or maybe they moved around on their own in some past cycle. Also, their societies look the same because they were created out of the same "collective unconscious". To be fair though, that was explained by Moore and wasn't actually in the show. However, what was in the show was the whole "it happened before and it'll happen again" theme. I think that's a good enough way to explain why the same society keeps popping up again and again if you're not into examining the issue too deeply.
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Old March 26 2009, 04:40 PM   #623
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Re: Battlestar Galactica Series Finale: "Daybreak, Part II"

G'Day All

One of the aspects of the last episode that got my interest was the Rebel Centurions departing, then 150, 000 years later. It makes for interesting speculation on what happened to the Cylon civilisation without resurrection technology during that time? That could be a very interesting to find out.

Also, conserning the loss of knowledge of the past by humanity, it has been proven that man can quickly revert to the barbarian faster than become that which we think of as civilised. When the overridding instinct is survival, nothing else matters.
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Old March 26 2009, 05:02 PM   #624
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Here's an altered version of a banner I made which almost went in the live commentary thread... Just thought I'd post it.



Originally, I had Africa blocked out by a lens flare since it was only intended to represent "the hand of god" along with "the search for a new world". I didn't want any Earth continents visible, especially since I didn't think we'd see our Earth. Oddly enough though, leaving Africa visible makes the banner fit even better with the spirit of the episode.

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Old March 26 2009, 07:03 PM   #625
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Chess Piece Face wrote: View Post
http://tv.yahoo.com/blog/battlestar-...stions--200?nc

Great article that sums up my feelings about the finale pretty well. I did give it an average, but I would have/should have given it an excellent.
Yeah, that's a great article. Brings up a lot of points that I did. I'm surprised it would've changed your rating positively though, unless you were being sarcastic.

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Old March 26 2009, 07:20 PM   #626
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I'm English, but I think one my ancestors on my dad side was Scottish, so I like to think I'm a descendent of Galen Tyrol


Also, this isn't really Daybreak related but as its BSG related I'll post it here. Went to a casino with some friends on Saturday night, and I'm not really a gambling man so I wasn't gonna play, but I decided to have a little spin on the Roulette, and (first time) I put £2 down on a random number. I chose "33" simply because of the BSG Season 1 opener, and hell yes it came up! £39 return! So thank you Battlestar Galactica for that
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Old March 26 2009, 08:06 PM   #627
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When Kara jumped the Galactica I thought she'd taken them back to the Earth from the mid-season cliffhanger. Once it became clearer that they were going to settle here on our Earth I kept hoping they'd follow through with a final scene in modern day Earth and they didn't disappoint in that respect. I really loved it. Here's to the release of a complete NUBSG box set containing Seasons 1,2,3,4,4.5, The Mini, Razor (and its extras), the webisodes and the Plan.
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Old March 26 2009, 08:51 PM   #628
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Re: Battlestar Galactica Series Finale: "Daybreak, Part II"

Mr Awe wrote: View Post
Chess Piece Face wrote: View Post
http://tv.yahoo.com/blog/battlestar-...stions--200?nc

Great article that sums up my feelings about the finale pretty well. I did give it an average, but I would have/should have given it an excellent.
Yeah, that's a great article. Brings up a lot of points that I did. I'm surprised it would've changed your rating positively though, unless you were being sarcastic.

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Oh, sorry Mr Awe...I meant I would have changed my grade if some of the things from the article were addressed in the finale.
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Old March 26 2009, 08:52 PM   #629
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From the article...
Isn't it an amazing coincidence that not only human life, but animal life as well, evolved exactly the same way on different planets light-years apart?
So even though we can't find existence of any kind of similar life outside of Earth, we're supposed to believe that Caprica evolved in exactly the same way, with humans looking identical as us (and sounding it, too) and even animals (like those pigeons we saw so much of in the final episodes) being the same? With the only real differences between us and them being that they liked to cut the corners off of their paper goods and say "frak" instead of our preferred F-word? And that the original 13th tribe also had a society that looked remarkably like ours, but with humanoid Cylons thrown into the mix? What. Are. The. Odds. Wasn't this supposed to be a science-fiction show?
If he thought about it a little more, he'd probably come up with a better answer. Maybe humans were transplanted to different worlds at some point in the past. Or maybe they moved around on their own in some past cycle. Also, their societies look the same because they were created out of the same "collective unconscious". To be fair though, that was explained by Moore and wasn't actually in the show. However, what was in the show was the whole "it happened before and it'll happen again" theme. I think that's a good enough way to explain why the same society keeps popping up again and again if you're not into examining the issue too deeply.
This is actually one of the points in the article that didn't bother me. I can accept stuff like this just because it's a tv show...the same way I can accept that everybody we see sounds and looks like they are speaking English.
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Old March 26 2009, 08:56 PM   #630
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^ In BSG's case, they probably are.
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