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Old March 25 2009, 05:19 AM   #121
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I always felt that by Star Trek's time, the clothing was a lot more comfortable than it looked, and much better insulated, to stay comfortable in cold and hot weather, thanks to 300 years of more advanced materials and clothing manufacturing techniques.
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Old March 25 2009, 11:17 AM   #122
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I absolutely cannot STAND the TWoK-TUC uniforms. YUCH!
To each his own -- I think they look just damn classy, all in all.

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Those uniforms would have been fine if Trek had been some sort of Honor Harrington type space opera, but they didn't suit Star Trek's less overtly militaristic representation. Whereas even if one didn't like the TMP uniforms they were still consistent (conceptually) with how Starfleet had been presented in TOS.
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Old March 25 2009, 11:51 AM   #123
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But, I'm crazy that way. I'm crazy in a lot of other ways too...but I am crazy like that about pointless and unused technology attached to characters.
Just looking "kewl" isn't enough for me.
Well, they really were expecting to get a few more outings with those uniforms and Perscan buckles. Ditto the dozens of raw silk Starfleet leisure shirts and Epsilon 9-type space station uniforms, which are still being auctioned off by "It's a Wrap!".
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Old March 25 2009, 04:29 PM   #124
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Another thing I noticed is that in the old VHS packaging for TMP, there's a group shot of the crew, and Decker is wearing a golden uniform rather than the grey one seen in the film. Anyone here know anything about that?
I'm sure someone can confirm this, but I seem to recall that Stephen Nichols had been cast not long at all before this picture was taken, and his own uniforms had not been made yet, so they found him one that would fit - and it was a "gold" one-piece. (I don't have the picture in front of me, but if memory serves, this is one of the photos taken before Spock's undershirt/collar was made, as well.)
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Old March 25 2009, 04:39 PM   #125
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^Stephen Collins is his name.
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Old March 25 2009, 05:03 PM   #126
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I'm sure someone can confirm this, but I seem to recall that Stephen Nichols had been cast not long at all before this picture was taken, and his own uniforms had not been made yet, so they found him one that would fit - and it was a "gold" one-piece. (I don't have the picture in front of me, but if memory serves, this is one of the photos taken before Spock's undershirt/collar was made, as well.)
I can't confirm any of that, but there's some publicity photos that would seem to jibe with what you're saying. Here's a more "candid" group photo that was likely taken when they took the official group photo — several of the cast members look like they're laughing, and GR and Bob Wise are in the photo as well.

http://movies.trekcore.com/gallery/a...t_creators.jpg

In addition to Stephen Collins in the gold jumpsuit and Nimoy without his collar, Shatner's wearing an interesting uniform variation — a two-piece with shoulder tabs. IIRC, it was only the jumpsuits and the short-sleeved uniforms that had shoulder tabs.

Kirk/Spock/McCoy group shot. Again, no collar for Nimoy, and Shatner's got shoulder tabs. Maybe it's just the lighting or the film they shot this one on, but the uniform colors are really vibrant here.

http://movies.trekcore.com/gallery/a...icity/ksm4.jpg

Group shot of just the TOS cast members:

http://movies.trekcore.com/gallery/a...ge_tmpcast.jpg

The uncropped version of the official cast shot — notice the wooden beam hanging from the ceiling.

http://movies.trekcore.com/gallery/a...cast_tmp01.jpg
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Old March 26 2009, 12:00 AM   #127
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I have never seen that first one... thanks cardinal biggles!

I think I like Kirk's odd tabs. I'd have preferred them on everyone's uniform. Also, I prefer Spock sans collar. Decker's costume is muuuuustaaaaard.
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Old March 26 2009, 05:42 PM   #128
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cardinal biggles wrote: View Post
I can't confirm any of that, but there's some publicity photos that would seem to jibe with what you're saying. Here's a more "candid" group photo that was likely taken when they took the official group photo — several of the cast members look like they're laughing, and GR and Bob Wise are in the photo as well.

http://movies.trekcore.com/gallery/a...t_creators.jpg

In addition to Stephen Collins in the gold jumpsuit and Nimoy without his collar, Shatner's wearing an interesting uniform variation — a two-piece with shoulder tabs. IIRC, it was only the jumpsuits and the short-sleeved uniforms that had shoulder tabs.

Kirk/Spock/McCoy group shot. Again, no collar for Nimoy, and Shatner's got shoulder tabs. Maybe it's just the lighting or the film they shot this one on, but the uniform colors are really vibrant here.

http://movies.trekcore.com/gallery/a...icity/ksm4.jpg

Group shot of just the TOS cast members:

http://movies.trekcore.com/gallery/a...ge_tmpcast.jpg

The uncropped version of the official cast shot — notice the wooden beam hanging from the ceiling.

http://movies.trekcore.com/gallery/a...cast_tmp01.jpg
Wow - I have seen each of those shots many times before, but had never noticed the anomalous shoulder tabs on Kirk's uniforms! How cool to still see new things in ST: TMP after so many years....

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Also, I prefer Spock sans collar.
I never liked the look of the collarless Spock in any of those pictures - it just looks wrong somehow (which I'm sure is mostly down to just being used to it the other way).
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Old March 26 2009, 05:51 PM   #129
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Did anyone ever explain what Spock's collar was for, in Trek universe terms? Something to do with Kolinahr?
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Old March 26 2009, 06:07 PM   #130
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Did anyone ever explain what Spock's collar was for, in Trek universe terms? Something to do with Kolinahr?

I was under the impression that it was a cultural adornment. In the Rec Room brief, other crewmen can be seen wearing artifacts from their ethnic/cultural background.
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Old March 26 2009, 07:18 PM   #131
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Agreed. I wonder if there was a real-world reason for it?
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Old March 26 2009, 07:30 PM   #132
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Did anyone ever explain what Spock's collar was for, in Trek universe terms? Something to do with Kolinahr?
I always figured it was for warmth. He'd been living on Vulcan for the past couple of years, and now he was back on a ship whose air temperature was set for human comfort -- he probably needed to have on an extra layer until he reacclimated.

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I wonder if there was a real-world reason for it?
Pretty sure it was something to do with keeping his makeup from smearing.
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Old March 26 2009, 07:39 PM   #133
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It's the same collar Spock has under his Vulcan robes when he arrives on ship. I suspect it was meant to show he was still "not one of us" rather than something as prosaic is preventing makeup smears.
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Old March 26 2009, 07:41 PM   #134
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Can't it be both?
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Old March 26 2009, 08:39 PM   #135
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