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Old March 19 2009, 03:48 AM   #16
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Re: Bear's Finale Music

If the Galactica goes out in a blaze of glory, fighting the Cylons, I totally want to hear the TOS main title theme, as she goes on her collision course, or whatever it is... her last moments.
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Old March 19 2009, 04:47 AM   #17
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It was like something out of the Victorian era. Why it's not on iTunes (given the number of people who watch BSG online via iTunes or SkyPlayer in the UK, or hulu.com/scifi.com in the US) I do not know.
Because NBC Universal said no, according to Bear.
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Old March 19 2009, 12:02 PM   #18
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I don't know how this man finds time to write such high quality orchestral music for episodic television. He must be a Cylon.
I'd happily pay £50 for a boxed set of all the extra music that has not been released so far, especially the full length "..Watchtower".
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Old March 19 2009, 08:13 PM   #19
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Considering how much great music there's been in season 4 thusfar, I'd really like to see the season 4 album get a double-CD release! I hope the soundtrack can be released sooner rather than later!
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Old March 20 2009, 01:02 AM   #20
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It was like something out of the Victorian era. Why it's not on iTunes (given the number of people who watch BSG online via iTunes or SkyPlayer in the UK, or hulu.com/scifi.com in the US) I do not know.
Because NBC Universal said no, according to Bear.
That's stupid. Are they afraid of selling too much or too little? iTunes allows album-only sales if not buying all the tracks was the concern. Are they afraid of paying too many royalties? What difference should that make if it's a percentage? Everybody makes more money.
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Old March 20 2009, 01:52 AM   #21
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That's stupid. Are they afraid of selling too much or too little?
At the time when Bear was first asked, NBC and Apple were still engaged in their spat over royalties on television episodes. It's possible that their stance has changed in the interim, though
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Old March 24 2009, 02:47 AM   #22
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"the music" was well used/explained IMO

"there's too much confusion" sung on the closeup to the most realistic looking robot...

"Businessmen, they drink my wine - ploughmen dig my earth" Massively developed Times Square (and the "businessman" part related to head/angel Baltar/Six scorning commercialism/decadence)...

What do you think - or am I just seeing what everyone else has, but has thought to be far to obvious to bother posting about?
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Old March 24 2009, 03:09 AM   #23
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Re: "the music" was well used/explained IMO

Well all i can say is that Bear did an amazing good on the finalle, and i hope he includes most of it on the season 4 soundtrack.
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Old March 24 2009, 03:20 AM   #24
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Re: "the music" was well used/explained IMO

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"there's too much confusion" sung on the closeup to the most realistic looking robot...

"Businessmen, they drink my wine - ploughmen dig my earth" Massively developed Times Square (and the "businessman" part related to head/angel Baltar/Six scorning commercialism/decadence)...

What do you think - or am I just seeing what everyone else has, but has thought to be far to obvious to bother posting about?


Well, I've always taken the lyrics to be Dylan condemning the commercialization of art. Though, I suppose they would be just as applicable to general commercialization and decadence.

In the BSGverse the song was 'originally' written by Anders, right? If he was involved with the others in re-creating resurrection tech. then was he a scientist? The song could be equally applicable to the misuse (or overuse) of technological advancements.

Perhaps the song was inspired by a society that would go so far as to create a new form of life only to mass-produce and market it with no regard for the soul of the creation... and the inevitable confrontation that would result.

Am I reaching?

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Old March 24 2009, 10:23 AM   #25
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Well, I've always taken the lyrics to be Dylan condemning the commercialization of art. Though, I suppose they would be just as applicable to general commercialization and decadence.

In the BSGverse the song was 'originally' written by Anders, right? If he was involved with the others in the recreation of resurrection tech. then was he a scientist? The song could be equally applicable to the misuse (or overuse) of technological advancements.

Perhaps the song was inspired by a society that would go so far as to create a new form of life only to mass-produce and market it with no regard for the soul of the creation... and the inevitable confrontation that would result.

Am I reaching?
Doesn't seem like too much of a reach, although personally I doubt that Anders was the first one to come up with the song - we really don't know how many times the cycle has repeated.
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Old March 24 2009, 11:16 AM   #26
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I have to say that there is no other show on tv these days where I could hum a musical theme for you, and Battlestar had so many. I've really enjoyed Bear's work, and the evolution and escalation of themes.
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In the BSGverse the song was 'originally' written by Anders, right?
Actually, he all he said was that he'd played it, not that he'd written it.
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Old March 24 2009, 08:51 PM   #28
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Well, I was hugely disappointed with the music in the finale. It was way too subtle, bothing stood out unlike previous episodes such as Exodus Pt 2 or Revelations.

I really *really* hated the fact they used the 1978 music to help guide Galactica to her fate. This show has grown beyond the original. Bringing it back then only reminded us this show is borne from another show, and it was just unnecessary.

It felt like Bear had taken a break for this last episode. Really did.
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Old March 24 2009, 09:51 PM   #29
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Well, I was hugely disappointed with the music in the finale. It was way too subtle, bothing stood out unlike previous episodes such as Exodus Pt 2 or Revelations.

I really *really* hated the fact they used the 1978 music to help guide Galactica to her fate. This show has grown beyond the original. Bringing it back then only reminded us this show is borne from another show, and it was just unnecessary.

It felt like Bear had taken a break for this last episode. Really did.
couldn't be more wrong. You forget that bear has written in the old theme as the colonial anthem long ago, in season 2, and it appeared in the miniseries during the ceremonial fly-by scene.

The colonial anthem has become the galactica's theme. When ever we have seen her in a different way we have heard the colonial theme, such as in the razor flashbacks, the fly by, and then her end.

"its about the characters, stupid"

the style of the music that bear took for the entire show, was based off of characters having their own themes and rifts. At some points they become like a conversation in a song, As apparent towards the end of Blood on the Scales, where you hear the conversation between Geata, Zarek, and then Adama & co. aproaching the CIC.

Bear kept up this same style in this episode where he used characters themes, and themes from similar scenarios: Such as the shape of things to come, for the opera house with the final five them mixed in, Luara's religious / kobol theme at the fountain, and then the many starbuck rifts.

i think the score for the last episode follows grand finale, where in a musical finale they show what we have seen through out the entire score(s)/movement(s)

the score conects the ending with key moments of the rest of the series, and how they relate to eachother.
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I really *really* hated the fact they used the 1978 music to help guide Galactica to her fate. This show has grown beyond the original. Bringing it back then only reminded us this show is borne from another show, and it was just unnecessary.
In the new series it is the Colonial Anthem (has been since the mini)... that seems like an appropriate piece of music to play as the last remnant of the Colonial fleet is finally retired.

Edit: Damn batboy853 and his speedy typing fingers!
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